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Old 10-11-2005, 05:12 AM
durrrr durrrr is offline
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Default ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

So i planned on posting 4 hands... and lost what i consider the most interesting 1 AHHH. From memory here goes:

Villain is ok, he could be very good, except that he loves to call, and overplay hands(although its clear he understands how to play- he just has no fold button). I fully expected him to call the river w/ KJ-KQ, maybe worse. However villain also rarely bluffs (except semi-bluffs). Also, villain tends to play his hands fast (especially when draws are present/probable)


~8 handed, stars 5/10

1 limper, I raise to 40 w/ AK (suits irrelevant)
Villain calls, limper calls

(pot~140) FLOP: K66 rainbow.

chk, i bet 110, villain calls, limper folds.

(pot~360) TURN: 8 (putting 2 diamonds on board)

i bet 320, villain calls.

(pot~1k) River: 3 (not diamond)

i bet 600, villain raises allin for about 1.1k more


Hand ranges for villain (these are very accurate ive playd with him lots)

Flop: 22+, and K, any 6, mayb 25% of his aces, and 5% of his rag hands (call flop to bluff the turn)

Turn: he calls w/ 22-77 maybe 25% of the time, 99-QQ mayb 50%, 75% of his kings he calls w/ (the other 25% he raises, not folds), (AA,6,88) he calls maybe 25% of the time (rest of the time he raises).
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

from your description, i fold.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

check river?
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Old 10-11-2005, 02:21 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

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check river?

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But he had top pair top kicker!
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Old 10-11-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

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check river?

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But he had top pair top kicker!

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No matter how sarcastic you sound, it doesn't make your right. Given his opponents calling standards, this is a bet.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

i folded, villain showed AK. I believe that he made a good play- and was trying to get me off AA/AK (although there's a good chance he wanted a call).

AZK; villain was the only person at the table whom I would've value bet this hand into on the river, and I'm pretty sure (tho always open to advice/suggestions) that this was a correct value bet (his call button = HUUUUGEE).
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: ps 5/10... and he raises river? deep

I always tell people who are learning to never bet the river when you are last to act if you have to think if raised. Its either an auto call or auto fold because you are bluffing. This is one of those situations where you dont bet the river unless you will call a raise.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:01 AM
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I always tell people who are learning to never bet the river when you are last to act if you have to think if raised. Its either an auto call or auto fold because you are bluffing. This is one of those situations where you dont bet the river unless you will call a raise.

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Nice insight, i was first to act... and are you not learning? I kind of thought we all are.
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