PS 5/10 hand best river line?

durrrr · #1 08-04-2005, 05:23 AM

Villian (UTG+1) is decent, semi-solid... but not good. He normally buys in for less than max from what i've seen. He will valuebet whenever he thinks he is ahead, and also overcall. What is the best river line here?... Villain's hand range is very wide: QJ,KJ,KQ w/ heart; Ax; flush; 33,99,TT; KKh/QQh/JJh(unlikely).

Oh and villian definitely views me as solid... but capable of moves- I've played with him a lot

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed)

CO ($349)
Button ($2678.10)
SB ($599)
Hero ($4218.25)
UTG ($1846.35)
UTG+1 ($962)
MP1 ($2969.10)
MP2 ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, MP1 calls $30, 2 folds, Button calls $30, 1 fold, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($125) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($125) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $80, UTG+1 calls $80, MP1 folds, Button folds.

River: ($285) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

HERO?

DOTTT · #2 08-04-2005, 05:31 AM

Bet $200.

captZEEbo1 · #3 08-04-2005, 07:54 AM

I do a nice c/r... it will induce bluff from QJ or K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and if he has like JJ-KK, he probalby thinks his hand is good and will value bet it.

Also, I probably fold pf.

SteveGriff · #4 08-04-2005, 10:03 AM

Well your opponent is happy enough to call the turn bet so he either puts you on an Ace or Ten and has either the Ace (so why would he not bet the flop when there's a flush draw out there?). He probably has QQ/JJ or something.

The trouble on the river is that he's going to fold if you bet too big. Seeing that the pot is $285 I would put a bet of around $160 in, around half. Enough is a bet so that it's cheap enough for him to call, and seem weakish... Hopefully he will re-raise. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm not great at NL cash games, hopefully someone else will chime in with their own opinions.

Steve Griff

XXXNoahXXX · #5 08-04-2005, 10:24 AM

I don't see anyone betting out with JJ-KK on the river, he will most likely check behind. If he has the flush he will most likely come over the top of any bet you make, and any A or T will likely call a bet if not come over the top. I think, betting the $160 area is the best because you are more likely to get a call or reraise(whether a bluff sensing weakness with your bet or with a flopped flush). There are too many hands here that he will call a river bet with, but will gladly check behind if you go for the c/r.

captZEEbo1 · #6 08-04-2005, 03:02 PM

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If he has the flush he will most likely come over the top of any bet you make, and any A or T will likely call a bet if not come over the top. I

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No loan A or T will come over the top. I still think someone that value bets a lot with value bet with JJ-KK now, thinking you can call with the T.

durrrr · #7 08-04-2005, 05:49 PM

I was thinking your line might be right CaptZeebo, thats why i posted this hand. If you check and he ~2/3 pots (what I'd expect if he is betting) what do you think the right c/r amount is? Vs. a good player allin is almost definitely the right bet here so long as a bluff with the right frequency(as my line is the nuts or a bluff just about). As it was i bet 200, he thought for a few seconds (definitely not about folding), and just called w/ AJ. Knowing his hand c/r was right... but i think vs. his overall range c/r is best also.

-durrrr

Big_Jim · #8 08-04-2005, 06:00 PM

Bets $200