worst brain freeze ever???

[11t]

I push this 100% of the time with <10xBB from the button, co, and from UTG 5 handed.

Anyways folding your way into anything is weak-tight imo. It probably isn't that bad of a move and you are just upset cus somebody had ak.

[USCUNC]

Yes... lol

[bocablkr]

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Hey,

Hey I was in this tourney, i had a brain freeze and took 4th.

In the situation we were in, definily push and hope people fold. Play for first not for 9th. 9th had like 150 dollars, 1st had 3.7k.

Although you could have waited for a short stack to bust out before you, what is another 30 bucks when you can play for first. AJ is too good for you to be passing this up with your stack and the way the blinds are.

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Small world House - aren't you the one who knocked me out. I should have known you were a 2+2er. Congratulations on a good call. You waited a long time to call - was it a tough decision or were you just taking your time? I thought you were going to win the tournament - 4th place is not too bad. Good Luck in the future.

[A_PLUS]

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I don't know that this push is "super easy" according to the rough chip equity calculation I just did. Basically this play is chipEV neutral if you steal the blinds 70% of the time, and the 30% you are called is against TT-AA, AQ/AK. I simplified the calculation for a double up or bust out scenario, and assumed only two outcomes - all fold or just one call. For this play to be +cashEV, you probably need to steal 80-85% of the time, which seems likely with those calling standards (remember someone has to call 10x here).

Assuming these calculations aren't way off, they support my thinking that pushing is marginally good but not really good. I'm sure someone can argue for looser calling standards, and in that case the steal % goes down too.

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This is wrong, I dont feel like doing the calculations right now, but it is definitely +CEV to push AJ 5 handed with antes. It might even be VERY +CEV, if you disagree, I will do the math tomorrow.

Besides that, 5 handed with antes, your stack is going to get eaten alive if you are waiting for a hand better than AJ. So by the time you do take a stand, you may have 5xBB, and need to double just to get back to the 10xBB stack you should have pushed 20 hands ago.

I really dont understand the obsession with the final table, and have no idea why people are advocating anything other than a push.

I think A8, A9 is where it gets interesting, but I will definitely run through the math tomorrow to see what the baseline hand is.

Original Poster, could you please give me the stack sizes (apx) and payout structure.

thanks

[HouseBlouse]

Was just taking my time becuase it was quite a few chips, and i really didn't want to be in a coinflip situation.