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Old 01-21-2005, 09:17 PM
nicky g nicky g is offline
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Call me biased, but that's an interesting question.
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:37 PM
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I agree that ideas should be debated indepedent of their source. However, it is reasonable to doubt statistical studies or facts that come from a heavily biased source. Generally they are set up to prove their own assumptions, or they are exagerrated respectively.
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:42 PM
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This isn't fair. Just because those dudes in Africa use machetes doesn't mean we're worse.
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Old 01-22-2005, 12:30 AM
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What should be measured is the amount of violence acts in general. If we have more murders, then the question to ask is why are Americans more violent in general than people other places.


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But that's the whole point of the movie: that the guns themselves don't cause the violence. If anything, it's a strong argument AGAINST gun control (even though Moore's own conclusion is, as usual, muddled). Gun control is just wasted effort that doesn't address the central issue. Kind of like spraying Coca crops in South America. Useless.
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Old 01-22-2005, 12:33 AM
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By the way, this thread demonstrates one of Elwood's points. Even if Moore's films are biased (a fact he has never denied), the fact that they spark discussions like this one is the important thing.

As for the fallacious ad-hominem attacks that are ruining our political discourse in this country, consider: If Adolf Hitler said, "Putting puppies in microwaves is wrong," would the fact that Adolf said it make it any less true?
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Old 01-22-2005, 04:31 AM
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As for the fallacious ad-hominem attacks that are ruining our political discourse in this country, consider: If Adolf Hitler said, "Putting puppies in microwaves is wrong," would the fact that Adolf said it make it any less true?


EXACTLY.
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