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08-01-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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I like it from the button against standard tight opponents, I don't like it from CO. [/ QUOTE ] Thats interesting...I actually prefer it from the CO. I think it looks less like a steal raise. -ropey 
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#23
08-01-2005, 08:49 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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If you are attempting to "steal" the blinds, explain to me why your hand is important. [/ QUOTE ] If you read anything Sklansky ever wrote, when he talks about ante stealing in any poker game, the hands you steal with matter. Stealing is generally a form of semi-bluff. You have two ways to win: successful steal or flop something good. This is why 3-betting is the best defense against steals, as it is also the same recipe you use against a semi-bluff.
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#24
08-01-2005, 08:52 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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I can't see open-raising from the CO with 37o as a good play regardless of the tightness of the SB and BB. You need a hand you can play postflop with when the BB decides to defend. [/ QUOTE ] Do tight players defend from the blinds? -ropey
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#25
08-01-2005, 08:55 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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Do tight players defend from the blinds? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah? I don't get this question. My VPIP is 18-19. I'm what you consider a tight player. I defend my BB especially to some guy who's been open-raising from the CO every time it's folded to him. I doubt I am alone in this.
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#26
08-01-2005, 08:57 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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If you read anything Sklansky ever wrote, when he talks about ante stealing in any poker game, the hands you steal with matter. Stealing is generally a form of semi-bluff. You have two ways to win: successful steal or flop something good. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but have you ever read anything that Ropey has written? There are certain types of players where any two cards are positive expectation. [ QUOTE ] This is why 3-betting is the best defense against steals, as it is also the same recipe you use against a semi-bluff. [/ QUOTE ] So perhaps you shouldn't try stealing against a player who will 3-bet you to try to defend against a steal. -ropey
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#29
08-01-2005, 09:03 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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Let me rephrase..."tight-passive players..." [/ QUOTE ] OK, now you're going to get into strict classifications of reads on players to do this on. The OP here had no reads and raised 63s from the CO. You responded with "when you steal the cards don't matter" but now we're against tight-passive blinds who don't defend much. I think you're back-tracking here.
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#30
08-01-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: Did someone just crack my 63s?
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[ QUOTE ] Let me rephrase..."tight-passive players..." [/ QUOTE ] OK, now you're going to get into strict classifications of reads on players to do this on. The OP here had no reads and raised 63s from the CO. You responded with "when you steal the cards don't matter" but now we're against tight-passive blinds who don't defend much. I think you're back-tracking here. [/ QUOTE ] And I think it's important to mention that me and Shant were having a semi-theoretical discussion on what to use to steal and when. I still don't feel 63s in CO merits a steal, so please no one take from this thread that any two is okay and start open raising everything you're dealt from MP3 onwards. You will not be successful.
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