10/20 Awful River Card

mscags · #1 11-28-2005, 02:27 AM

Villian is 30/30 over about 40 hands or so.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP calls.

River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero...

Entity · #2 11-28-2005, 02:28 AM

That river card isn't that awful. Call, especially given your read (or lack thereof).

Rob

mscags · #3 11-28-2005, 02:33 AM

You're right I guess it isnt that bad, it just seems like everytime that ace hits like that I'm always beat, it could just be variance though.

Zele · #4 11-28-2005, 02:34 AM

I much prefer betting the river and folding to a raise given our limited knowledge of this guy.

P.S. I am strongly opposed to check/folding.

mscags · #5 11-28-2005, 02:36 AM

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Why?

Entity · #6 11-28-2005, 02:37 AM

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When our knowledge is that he's 30/30 (generally aggressive), I prefer checking to induce a bluff from missed hearts, QJ, etc., rather than betting.

Rob

Lmn55d · #7 11-28-2005, 02:38 AM

if he'll pay you off with K9, KT, JT sorts of hands I like betting better too. Do you think he would? I think JQ is calling for sure.

I am fish · #8 11-28-2005, 02:38 AM

Call, you only have to win the pot about 10% of the time for a call to be correct. Given that he is very agressive... Call.

Zele · #9 11-28-2005, 02:43 AM

He'd have to be awfully "creative" to raise the river as a bluff, and a relative unknown isn't often enough to make me worry about folding.

Given what we know of him, I believe he'll call more often than he'll bet. I almost never try to induce bluffs out of position without a clear read that the guy is bluff-happy.

He won't bluff with QJ. He might value bet it, but he'll almost surely call with it.

mscags · #10 11-28-2005, 02:48 AM

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He'd have to be awfully "creative" to raise the river as a bluff, and a relative unknown isn't often enough to make me worry about folding.

Given what we know of him, I believe he'll call more often than he'll bet. I almost never try to induce bluffs out of position without a clear read that the guy is bluff-happy.

He won't bluff with QJ. He might value bet it, but he'll almost surely call with it.

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Given the fact that he seems so aggro preflop it would make me think that he would bet here a lot more than he would call. I think I like this line a lot against someone who isn't very aggro (this guy may not be though, remember we dont have much of a read that he is aggro)

Scags