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Re: Results not important, please critique flop and turn play
OK. Thanks.
So I shouldn't have tried to milk it more on the flop to get more callers? |
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Re: Results not important, please critique flop and turn play
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So I shouldn't have tried to milk it more on the flop to get more callers? [/ QUOTE ] Whatever you do, you have to be consistent with your bets when you do and don't have actual hands. If you are potting lots of flops with air and making weaker bets with made hands, observant opponents will take notice and adjust their play accordingly. With regards to this specfic board, I don't think a weaker flop bet would have helped much. Your pre-flop action helped narrow down the hand range preflop, such that most people here hold a bunch of high cards. Given the rainbow flop, the only opponents that you are getting action from are those that called with a small-middle runs hoping to snap off aces. (This is assuming that you aren't betting so weak as to give someone odds to hit their two-outers on you.) Additionally, if your opponents have marked you with A-A-x-x ot K-K-x-x, you can get a lot of action from even bottom two here. Considering this, and the fact that MP1 bet the turn with his case chips, the turn call is a no brainer (as Tilt already mentioned). |
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Re: Results not important, please critique flop and turn play
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Additionally, if your opponents have marked you with A-A-x-x ot K-K-x-x, you can get a lot of action from even bottom two here. Considering this, and the fact that MP1 bet the turn with his case chips, the turn call is a no brainer (as Tilt already mentioned). [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly why I potted it because my thinking is I represented KKxx or AAxx and I could get action from someone thinking I am over playing them post flop. Unfortunately this is because I sometimes may do this on a board of this type (which I see as being almost as safe as possible for AAxx and KKxx) |
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Re: Results not important, please critique flop and turn play
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[ QUOTE ] Additionally, if your opponents have marked you with A-A-x-x ot K-K-x-x, you can get a lot of action from even bottom two here. Considering this, and the fact that MP1 bet the turn with his case chips, the turn call is a no brainer (as Tilt already mentioned). [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly why I potted it because my thinking is I represented KKxx or AAxx and I could get action from someone thinking I am over playing them post flop. Unfortunately this is because I sometimes may do this on a board of this type (which I see as being almost as safe as possible for AAxx and KKxx) [/ QUOTE ] I think your fine with this. Since everybody checked and you have the button you should bet as they probably expect you too after a pre-flop raise and safe board. With so many to the flop it really up's your chances of someone thinking they are going to be trapping you with an underset you can get heads up with. The pot bet should narrow down the field the help achieve this. I think this is in general a safe board for AA/KK and will bet it, but often not into a field of 4. Usually only if there are only 1 or 2 others in unless I have great reads they fold alot. With a field this large if the turn comes a K or an A it could turn out good for you if someone wiffed a c/r on the flop. Plus if it get's checked around 2 you a second time on a blank it's very unlikely they have anything and a bet there will win it. |
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