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Old 09-17-2005, 01:45 PM
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Default Ace Jack on the button

$1000 buyin NLHE at the Commerce. Second level with blinds
of 25/50. CO openraises for T150 He seems to be overly
aggressive. He has about T3000. I have around T2000. We
all start with T1500. I reraise to T475 with AJo on the button. He calls.

Flop comes Ks Kh 9c.

He checks and I bet T500. He calls.

Turn Ks Kh 9c Jd.

He checks, I check.

River a blank. He bets T600. What's my play? The pot if I call is T2625. If I lose I have around T500 in chips left. If I call I'm getting 4:1. I think my play on all
streets is certainly very debatable.

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Old 09-17-2005, 01:58 PM
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I don't care if he is overly aggressive, you are putting in 1/4 of your stack preflop with a garbage hand, then putting in another 1/4 on the flop with nothing. Just fold it preflop man, you can get a better spot than this. You are building a HUGE pot preflop with a bad hand. HOWEVER, once you got there, and I think getting there was the mistake, I push the turn and hope he doesn't have a king/boat/straight, which it is pretty likely he has. You showed big strength preflop, your flop bet could mean nothing and he knows this. Push on turn or fold preflop.
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:06 PM
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Preflop, my biggest mistake was making the pot big. AJo is not a beauty, but against his range of hands it's probably
a favorite to a big favorite. Calling preflop may have been the best play. As it turns out I have half my stack
in on the flop with nothing. I have a very difficult time
calling on the button when the co raises BTF. I am programmed to reraise or fold when calling may be the best option. Do you like to call on the button when the co
openraises or is this a reraise or fold scenario, excluding pocket Aces, Kings, etc.?

Bruce
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Ace Jack on the button

I don't think there's anything wrong with reraising a LAG opening from the CO when you have AJo on the button.
Don't know why you check the turn, though, unless you really think he has trip kings. A LAG, after all, is perfectly capable of calling with nothing and trying to take the pot away from you. (You could check the flop and bet the turn, but with your line you've put in nearly half your stack by the turn, so I probably get in the rest.)
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Ace Jack on the button

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I don't care if he is overly aggressive, you are putting in 1/4 of your stack preflop with a garbage hand, then putting in another 1/4 on the flop with nothing. Just fold it preflop man, you can get a better spot than this. You are building a HUGE pot preflop with a bad hand. HOWEVER, once you got there, and I think getting there was the mistake, I push the turn and hope he doesn't have a king/boat/straight, which it is pretty likely he has. You showed big strength preflop, your flop bet could mean nothing and he knows this. Push on turn or fold preflop.

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AJo is a trash hand? Where do you play? Id love to play against you knowing this. It would be a blast.
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Ace Jack on the button

yea it is
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:53 PM
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yea it is

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It's not in this position...
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:55 PM
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yea it is

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It's not in this position...

[/ QUOTE ]so you fold AJo on button?
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:21 PM
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You shouldn't like playing AJo into raises, especially early. I can pick better spots vs LAGs (if thats what he is, how much is -overly- to you), as they provide them often enough. I REALLY like/favor a fold PF here, its early, 2nd level, you don't want to/ don't need to play this hand into raises at this point in time.

If it was suited, and I had a definite LAG read on him, plus I'm on the button, I maybe would venture a call. I still wouldn't like it though.
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:24 PM
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Excellent logic. Thx.

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