Me vs. Matt Flynn

Wayfare · #1 04-13-2005, 02:01 PM

6 Handed, I start the hand with 80x BB, Flynn has me covered. Stakes are low, players were trying to play right (at least the two in this hand)

I am dealt JJ UTG and make it 4x the BB. I get two callers behind me, one of them Mr. Flynn.

Flop 8h 6s 3h (~13x BB)

What's the best line? Do I back this with my stack?

In the event, I checked, matt bet 6x bb, I checkraise to 16x BB. I actually think this is one of the worst lines to take.

Turn 6d

I check, Matt goes all-in, I fold.

Rip it apart fellas.

Yeti · #2 04-13-2005, 02:04 PM

You've got to start by potting it, then take it from there. Obviously it's a tricky situation to play.

CR'ing is bad because you're bloating the pot OOP with 1 pair, but you know that..

Rotating Rabbit · #3 04-13-2005, 02:17 PM

I call here. It appears to villian that you are on a re-steal with AK, that you didnt want to do a continuation bet into 4 players but when you saw his weak bet you figured he would fold if you raised. Turn comes low, since you have only 40 bb left and there's 40 in the pot the only sensible bet is all-in which he makes. I think you're ahead, because he doesnt expect you to call.

Edit: What turnip says below is another reason he doesnt expect you to call, if you did indeed have an overpair you would probably bet the turn.

turnipmonster · #4 04-13-2005, 02:18 PM

are you currently playing fast or slow? checkraising the flop is bad (matt is very capable of blowing you off your hand if the pot is large), but not betting the turn seems worse to me.

--turnipmonster

Wayfare · #5 04-13-2005, 02:59 PM

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are you currently playing fast or slow? checkraising the flop is bad (matt is very capable of blowing you off your hand if the pot is large), but not betting the turn seems worse to me.

--turnipmonster

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I completely agree with this: my checkraise defines my hand very narrowly as a vulnerable overpair, which does not want to see a turn. He can blow me off this pretty easily plus mix in having the hand just enough to make it EV neutral.

Matt Flynn · #6 04-13-2005, 03:53 PM

one can of guinness:
$2.64

playing nutbar on $25 nl:
$84

[ QUOTE ]
Stakes are low, players were trying to play right (at least the two in this hand)

[/ QUOTE ]: priceless

gimme the hand number i'll let you know what i had.

matt

Tilt · #7 04-13-2005, 04:02 PM

Before Matt responds, let me just guess that he had something like 57os.

I think Matt posts 3 of these buyins as blinds in some games...

DrPublo · #8 04-13-2005, 04:16 PM

Weak, Dave.

What did you put him on? You played the hand from square one like you were losing, never really giving yourself a chance to win. I don't see the value in your line. Care to explain?

Seriously, reading the post it seems like you didn't want to get called preflop, and once you did you immediately resigned. Did the fact that Matt Flynn plays bigger than you do scare you out of playing the hand normally?

The Doc

Edited to be more insulting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Boris · #9 04-13-2005, 04:22 PM

Your best bet to get MF's money is to just wait for him in the parking lot.

muzungu · #10 04-13-2005, 08:36 PM

Drat, if you called I was going to really like your line.

Oh well.

In 100x games, many people limp JJ UTG. This is especially true if you are going to chicken out when put to the test by LAG opposition. I mean, you have a strong hand, hit a good flop, made one agressive move and bailed. You might as well have been bluffing, right?

-muz