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Old 03-15-2005, 06:44 PM
b8factor b8factor is offline
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Default Poker CHips



I am looking at getting some NEW chips. I have done my research and it is down to these 3 styles:

1) Composite
1.10 per chip
Used in Casinos today
DOes not wear well on shuffling but looks the best

2) Clay
.95 per chip
Easy to destory with dampness cold or heat
Used by casinos for the past 75 years

3) Clay Composite
.70 per chip
Used by casinos
A bit slippery to stack to tall but the strognest chip of the 3 in durabilty and longevity

Any comments?

What is more important? Feel? Stack ability? Looks? Price is no concern for this set.
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:45 PM
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:50 PM
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99.999% of people claiming to sell "clay composite" chips are flat out lying. period.

go to pokerchipreviews.com for the info, and buy them from 5stardeal.com for better prices than most ebay sellers on everything.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:01 PM
spicychili spicychili is offline
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If your option 1 is the first stack of chips in that image those are Ceramic not Composite.

I personally like (and own 1300+)the chioco chips (the ceramic ones).

You may also want to check out http://www.homepokertourney.com/chips_review.htm for chip reviews. He probably had done a detailed review on every chip that you have in your image.



What it comes down to is what you like the best. You seem to already have some samples. All of the chips will last a very long time, unless you are playing underwater then the clay ones will last about a day.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:30 PM
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If you haven't yet, you should check out pokerchipreviews.com, particularly http://www.pokerchipreviews.com/education.html. People use a lot of different descriptions for the same chips. Most of the time, when people talk about high end chips, it usually boils down to:

1. "Real Clay" , aka compression-molded clay
- what most people think of when they think of a "casino chip"
- most casinos use these (Paulson brand)
- companies include Paulson, ASM, Blue Chip, TRKing, probably forgetting some. Paulson just recently started selling to the home market again, IMO has the best feel but limited design selection.

2. Ceramic
- the face of these are completely flat and the graphic goes all the way to the edge
- some casinos use these, including Luxor and Palms I think. generally use ChipCo brand

- I think only 2 brands: ChipCo, NevadaJacks. Most people think ChipCo is the superior of these brands, but NJs are substantially cheaper are still pretty good.

3. Bud Jones style chip
- don't know much about these, but generally have a metal inlay (sometimes covered with a decal) surrounded by composite.
- Real Bud Jones chips aren't available to the public, but you can buy them used (pretty expensive)
- I think Matsui makes a BJ-style chip that is good quality. Don't know about other brands.


As mentioned above, just order a bunch of samples and choose which one you like. Durability and stackability are generally not an issue with high end chips, unless you abuse them. Feel and looks obviously subjective. Usually the decision-making starts choosing between clay and ceramic. If you like ceramic, people mostly go with ChipCo chips which can be found in many different designs (or you can have them custom made). If you like clay, get samples from the different manufacturers and decide which chip is best in terms of feel and mold design. Then find a inlay design you like or have one custom made.

Anyway, just my opinions - there are people around these forums that know a lot more about chips than me... Good luck with your search.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:31 PM
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unless you are playing underwater then the clay ones will last about a day.

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But, still! You'd get a whole day of playing UNDER WATER!
-Sam
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Old 03-15-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Poker CHips

Good advice to read both review sites noted above. Lots of good info there. Here's my 2¢...

1. Ceramic -- Chipco (including Egyptians) or Nevada Jacks skulls, mardi gras, desert sands, etc. Excellent quality printing and superb graphics available. Get samples of both types to see which finish you like -- smoother or more textured. Used by some casinos, but a great chip if you like the sound and feel. Good custom choices here.

2. Compression molded "Clay" -- Paulsons are the Cadillac here. Some real chips available on eBay but getting damn expensive -- Vineyards, New Sonny's, Crystal Park, even Dunes. Also good Paulson "fantasy" casino chips -- Scandia, Fabulous Las Vegas, Players, Good Luck, old James Bonds. Paulson just started producing new Paulson Chips mold for consumers, seem to be casino quality. There are a couple of group buys going on for new Paulson James Bonds and some custom Eqyptian Paulsons. Other good clay choices are Kardwell, other ASM molds, BPC Modern Clays, TR Kings, Blue Chips, Nevada Jacks and Martini Clubs. Some customized choices here from certain manufacturers.

3. Composite "clay" really composite plastic/nylon -- Bud Jones are the Cadillac here, but sold only to casinos. Two styles -- coin centered and decals. Some BJs available on eBay (like Dodge City or Maxamillion decals or various coin inlays). Other good coin-centered choices (Matsui made) from Rounders card club, Murphy's, and KC chips. These have a unique feel and sound that are not like clays or ceramics, but many people (including me) like them a lot.

Finally, lots of junk out there, but you can usually tell by the price. Most of what people claim as clays (or even composites) are definitely not!

You've got 3 distinct choices -- all good quality that will last a long time, if you're willing ot pay in the $1 range.

Good luck deciding. If you need more info or links, let me know.
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:15 PM
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I think that if you want to play underwater then the dreaded dice chips might finally have found their true niche.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:27 PM
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That's right ceramic. I had forgotten. I love the look, feel, sound, stackabilti, and what I mean here is their ability to stick together when moving 20-30 stacks without falling, and every thing else.

What I do not like about these chips is for the price they do not last long. What I mean by that is I have had a sample set for some time and shuffle them to death and the small white rim eventualy wears down and then the design is next to go. Also you can slightly rub them together and they wear off. I hate to have all white chips by year end.

Other than that these have always been my fav. It is just that Poker players do so much shuffling they will wear out fast.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:30 PM
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what i mean by stacking is that the compoite chips are a bit slippery compared to chalky ceramic or clay chips and when moving a 20-30 stack into a pot they sometimes slip over and fall. Same when your dealing behind you stack and accidenlty nick the top it makes the whole stack fall.

The clay chips do a real good job of being "sticky" with each other. The cermaics are not as good but still better than the composite.

However, the + on the composite is they last longer than the rest.
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