I HATE making this laydown

ggbman · #1 08-24-2005, 08:48 AM

UTG is quite bad, he is the donator in the game. The SB was been very solid thusfar, i feel his calling range is fairly wide against UTG.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (14 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 15 BB

ArturiusX · #2 08-24-2005, 09:04 AM

I would too.

Jinx · #3 08-24-2005, 09:30 AM

why would you call the turn and fold the river?

cmwck · #4 08-24-2005, 09:32 AM

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why would you call the turn and fold the river?

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He has a draw to the nut flush.

krishanleong · #5 08-24-2005, 09:36 AM

There aren't a whole lot of reasonable hands that beat you in this spot. Give the unreasonableness, I think you should call.

Krishan

Except flushes which I missed the first time. I'm not sure.

zimmer879 · #6 08-24-2005, 11:48 AM

I think this is a good fold. Solid SB waking up on the turn in a protected pot after coldcalling that flop means you're beat. There really aren't any goofy semibluffs that he might have here to justify calling the river imo, especially since you're holding the Kd.

mikeyKay · #7 08-24-2005, 11:53 AM

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why would you call the turn and fold the river?

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He has a draw to the nut flush.

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and a few outs to fill up

-mike

Noodles · #8 08-24-2005, 11:58 AM

15 BB in the pot? no way am i folding this ever,
folding when you are right saves you one measly bet,folding when you are wrong is a disaster,

jba · #9 08-24-2005, 11:59 AM

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There aren't a whole lot of reasonable hands that beat you in this spot. Give the unreasonableness, I think you should call.

Krishan

Except flushes which I missed the first time. I'm not sure.

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if he has a flush it's a jack high flush, that seems pretty loose to call an UTG raise even from a donator.

we pretty much have to put villain on J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] / J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or AQ to think we're behind here. I can't think of much else he would have but for someone with a wide hand range I think I'd have to call that river.

ISF · #10 08-24-2005, 12:05 PM

Getting 15-1 i think I would just call. He cant have J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T or AJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] one in 15 times? or some Qj [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]