Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes Hold'em

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-29-2005, 03:55 PM
sfer sfer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 806
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement.

[/ QUOTE ]

So you'll raise 77+ in that spot?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-29-2005, 03:55 PM
sfer sfer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 806
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
W/all that being said, I just toss my 22 on the turn rather than raise them. If you had a specific read on your opponent I'd like it better.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't disagree, but on a QQ4 flop with a player in between, what does he have?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-29-2005, 04:01 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement.

[/ QUOTE ]

So you'll raise 77+ in that spot?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity.

I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-29-2005, 04:07 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
W/all that being said, I just toss my 22 on the turn rather than raise them. If you had a specific read on your opponent I'd like it better.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't disagree, but on a QQ4 flop with a player in between, what does he have?

[/ QUOTE ]

just overcards, any ace, a 4, 33-99

if he is a bad player he may still call the turn raise with a worse hand (overcards), and also a decent thinking player will very often release a mediocre (but better) hand here.

a raise on the turn is a profitable play against a couple different types of players, so a read is not as important here as in some other hands i think.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-29-2005, 07:13 PM
sfer sfer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 806
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement.

[/ QUOTE ]

So you'll raise 77+ in that spot?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity.

I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm, that's interesting. I am raising any playable hand here and most crappy hands as well. With position, the extra SB, and seeing that the CO has cheese I'm looking for excuses to get involved.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-29-2005, 07:31 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement.

[/ QUOTE ]

So you'll raise 77+ in that spot?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity.

I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm, that's interesting. I am raising any playable hand here and most crappy hands as well. With position, the extra SB, and seeing that the CO has cheese I'm looking for excuses to get involved.

[/ QUOTE ]

okay, fair enough. my problem with those hands is probably I don't play them well enough postflop in all honesty.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-30-2005, 02:19 AM
me454555 me454555 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 566
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

Yeah dont really know what I was thikning about calling the flop and folding to the turn bet. I think I meant to say that I'd fold it to the flop c/r.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-30-2005, 03:37 AM
private joker private joker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,943
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

I like this hand a lot, Dave. What turn cards are you not raising when you call the flop c/r? A? 4? T/J/K? Or are you always raising the turn...
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-30-2005, 07:25 AM
Victor Victor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: cleveland
Posts: 68
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

i would fold the flop. you are playing with fulltable fags remember. expect to see a4 here and realize you made him feel smart.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-30-2005, 07:26 AM
Victor Victor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: cleveland
Posts: 68
Default Re: Why did you checkraise?

i only like pf if the blinds are so tight that you would make this play with xx.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.