3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise

ryanghall · #1 10-29-2005, 11:44 PM

Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to $20, 2 folds, BB raises to $66, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets $102, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $126, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $228, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

creedofhubris · #2 10-30-2005, 01:11 AM

This is about the worst possible flop. (Worse: KQJ, KKQ)

Forebodings aside, raise allin on the turn once you catch aces up. That card did not help him at all, he won't believe it helped you.

ryanghall · #3 10-30-2005, 01:26 AM

What's going to call that I'm ahead of, save for *maybe* Ace King (and that's stretching it).

Ryan

gol4pro · #4 10-30-2005, 01:28 AM

3 bet here for sure if you have a LAG image-- he might take your open from the cutoff as a steal, and then be delighted to get it in with kings preflop after you 3-bet.

Flop is good.

Turn... meh. I'd prefer a raise to 300 and take a free showdown. All in seems bad, but you almost ended up all in anyway on river, so might as well.

ryanghall · #5 10-30-2005, 01:38 AM

I should have added that my image shouldn't be laggish at this point, but more taggish.

Ryan

ryanghall · #6 10-30-2005, 01:02 PM

He had QQ and I lost a big pot.

Once that flop came down, I should have recognized that I was beaten. I guess I was hoping he had AK. A friend of mine suggested that I fold the turn - he thought it was unlikely that AK would fire again, but it was very difficult for such a small bet relative to the pot size. There's also certainly no guarantee that AK won't bet again. I think I certainly should have folded the river and I disagree with the posters who suggest for me to get it all-in on the turn, and I don't think I'm being results oriented.

Just a bad flop and a bad situation, I guess.

Ryan

trevor · #7 10-30-2005, 01:53 PM

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Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to $20, 2 folds, BB raises to $66, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets $102, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $126, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $228, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

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Because you *know* you should 3-bet it pre-flop why are you even continuing on this flop? Completely contradictory to what your pre-flop thoughts were. I don't mind just calling the re-raise sometimes but you've gotta let it go on this flop. This was played poorly.

#8 11-01-2005, 07:26 AM

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Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to $20, 2 folds, BB raises to $66, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets $102, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $126, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $228, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

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Because you *know* you should 3-bet it pre-flop why are you even continuing on this flop? Completely contradictory to what your pre-flop thoughts were. I don't mind just calling the re-raise sometimes but you've gotta let it go on this flop. This was played poorly.

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To continue on this point of view, the only time you should flat call the raise preflop is when you are pretty sure he is big pair (jj-kk). I would probably three bet preflop since I don't know much about him, but when you hit a flop like this and you are putting him on jj-kk, you gotta fold to his flop or turn bet.

#9 11-01-2005, 10:37 AM

raise the flop so you will lead the turn! Dont give him any "free" cards to his pocket pair!

radioheadfan · #10 11-01-2005, 10:41 AM

Fold on the turn. That bet SMELLS.