DONK!

baronzeus · #1 07-29-2005, 08:38 PM

No reads!

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 6 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero.... ????

Shillx · #2 07-29-2005, 08:39 PM

Call. Raise the turn if it is a relative blank and usually check behind on the river.

Brad

baronzeus · #3 07-29-2005, 08:40 PM

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Call. Raise the turn if it is a relative blank and usually check behind on the river.

Brad

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 6 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero ?????

Deamon2 · #4 07-29-2005, 08:41 PM

I'd raise and fold to a 3-bet. fold to any action on the turn, and check behind if we can. call a river bet, as we're likely to induce a bluff.

poker's been messing with my mind recently, so I don't know if that is good or not.

Shillx · #5 07-29-2005, 08:43 PM

That is a "blank" as far as I'm concerned. You can't call on the flop to fold the turn if you don't find an 8 against most players (some you can since they will only bet again if they have a Q) so this looks like a good time to raise for value. Easy muck to a 3-bet.

Brad

POKhER · #6 07-29-2005, 08:51 PM

A caller now bets the flop....

I dont play 3/6 but I'll fold this in .25/.50 Why?

Smallish pot, No read, 22:1 to get a set. Or you could raise the flop bet and fold to a 3 bet?

POKhER - Call me weak, Im fed up of playing aggressive and being killed *Sob sob*

baronzeus · #7 07-29-2005, 08:55 PM

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A caller now bets the flop....

I dont play 3/6 but I'll fold this in .25/.50 Why?

Smallish pot, No read, 22:1 to get a set. Or you could raise the flop bet and fold to a 3 bet?

POKhER - Call me weak, Im fed up of playing aggressive and being killed *Sob sob*

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This line is fine in lower levels with less smart opponents. At higher levels (mostly 5/10 and above) this bet means either a) mid/bottom pair or b) draw. You'll get run over if you fold these 3BB pots every time.

Jeoke · #8 07-29-2005, 09:15 PM

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That is a "blank" as far as I'm concerned. You can't call on the flop to fold the turn if you don't find an 8 against most players (some you can since they will only bet again if they have a Q) so this looks like a good time to raise for value. Easy muck to a 3-bet.

Brad

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Why does the K not bother you? I understand that this is a 3/6 game and people play differently but are their UTG starting hands really so different that your confident he doesnt have a K or Q?

kapw7 · #9 07-29-2005, 09:37 PM

I don't believe that he has a Q a lot of times on the flop. He would probably C-R. The donk bet tries to push you out of the hand I think a lot of times he has a flush draw/low pair. I would be tempted to raise but without reads maybe it's better to call.
That said the turn bet looks more serious and your equity is lower because of the 2nd overcard. If you call this you might have to call the river as well and your pot odds become very bad. Raising is another idea but you cannot play this without reads. IMO.

baronzeus · #10 07-30-2005, 12:46 AM

Both of you are overestimating 3/6 players. Just assume he's a moron with no reads.