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Old 09-26-2005, 04:20 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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36/18/2 raises in co. i call in bb with q10h.

flop is q66. i check and call.

turn is 5 and goes check, check.

river is 4 and i misclick check.....
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:24 PM
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You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: a hand i misclicked and may like

i think i'd c/r the flop and lead the turn
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:26 PM
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You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.

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ummm....sorry, i must ask why?
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:26 PM
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I would have probably check raised the flop.
That said, I'm really starting to like the river check against a fairly aggro villain. Maybe I should add that to my game.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:27 PM
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whywhywhywhy
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: a hand i misclicked and may like

Obviously there are other ways to get to the river, but given that you just ambled there, the misclick check is -EV. By betting, he has a tough choice with all his Ace high hands that will happily check behind. This is especially true if the flop was two tone.

If he bets, easy raise and watch him call out of utter confusion. But I don't think many hands bet here.

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Old 09-26-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: a hand i misclicked and may like

I don't like it.

You miss a probable call from Aces.

Let's say aces comprise 1/3 of CO open raising hands.

If we assume
1) He will call with A-high (resonable)
2) He won't bet A-high if you check (resonable for most opponents)
3) He won't call with hands that are not A-high (not far from resonable)

then he needs to bluff bet 50% of the time he doesn't have A-high for your play to be good.

Since I think the four assumptions have been more biased towards checking than is correct, I think the real percentage he needs to bluff is more like 60%+
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:34 PM
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dont you think his likelihood of having an ace is reduced by the turn check on a super raggedy board.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:34 PM
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You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.

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ummm....sorry, i must ask why?

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There are too many overcards that can hurt your hand.

Also, you are most likely ahead and missing bets from hands like AK, 88, etc. that will call you all the way to the river.
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