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#11
11-08-2005, 05:09 PM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
I don't think I would ahve bet as much on the turn, we're quickly getting intoa situation where we're out of position in a large pot with one pair. I don't like that situation.
I'd bet about half-pot on the turn and again on the river, just enough to villian sees it as a value bet. 
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#12
11-08-2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
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im surprised you didnt repop pf, seems to be more your style. i normally check call the flop heads up then value bet down 1/2 pot turn 1/2 pot river... [/ QUOTE ] I've been re-examining my style and a lot of times I think stupid aggression costs me. Also, a lot of players in this game have me pegged as a maniac so I can valuebet them to death and play more solid with good results against them. I dunno, I'm just trying to play less crazy in general and more - what's that word I'm looking for - good. As for the hand, I bet 75 and folded to a raise. Stupid bet size in my opinion. I think check-folding to a big bet is good because at this point I'm thinking he's either got a set, KQ, or maybe QJ. It's probably pretty hard for KQ to bet here so that means that I'm beating just about nothing. There's also something to be said about betting less on the turn. I think 25 would have done fine too.
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#13
11-09-2005, 06:05 AM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
Bobbo!
What's your line in case there was another PF caller (C1) behind the PFR? Would you be more or less inclined to lead out? I'd be less inclined to build the pot with TPTK OOP due to the risk of C1 hitting trips. I'd let PFR make his CB, and see C1 fold his small pair. Then proceed along your original line. Likewise, I'd do the same if there was a limp-caller in front of the pfr. any good? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] /Jaxz
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#14
11-09-2005, 06:29 AM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
I think check and call a decent bet on the river is the best play.
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#15
11-09-2005, 06:33 AM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
what hand will bet that we beat? If we think there's a good possibility that he has KQ then it seems like bet-folding is best as we get value out of KQ while losing the same money to hands that beat us.
It really looks to me like check-folding to a big bet is best here. I'd like to be convinced otherwise, though
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#16
11-09-2005, 06:38 AM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
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what hand will bet that we beat? [/ QUOTE ] A bluff? But I have read all the other answers now and think c/c lead turn is the best line, not sure though. I also never win anything at stars. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#17
11-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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Re: simple, basic TPTK hand
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Bobbo! What's your line in case there was another PF caller (C1) behind the PFR? [/ QUOTE ] I'd reraise pf [ QUOTE ] Would you be more or less inclined to lead out? [/ QUOTE ] If I called? Well, if I had relative position on the pfr, I'd check to see what cold caller did. If he folded I'd play much the same way I pretty much advocated. If he called, my game plan has shifted a little bit more. If I didnt have position, I'd lead at the pot, and if he raises, I'm done. (As in, not worried about pfr). [ QUOTE ] I'd be less inclined to build the pot with TPTK OOP due to the risk of C1 hitting trips. I'd let PFR make his CB, and see C1 fold his small pair. Then proceed along your original line. Likewise, I'd do the same if there was a limp-caller in front of the pfr. any good? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] /Jaxz [/ QUOTE ]
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