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Old 12-27-2005, 03:54 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default 15/30 questions

2/4 to 15/30 in 75 days?

1) Is it possible to win 2/100 over the long term, being a quite competitive player for this limit (top 12%)?

2) Is there good table selection available at 15/30 full ring?

3) Is it possible to play 8 tables silmultaneously at 15/30?

Sorry if this would best belong in small stakes. Sorry that it's probably been asked like 100 times already. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 12-27-2005, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

It's possible, if you've already established a good ability for poker and the desire to see this thing through.

8-tabling 15/30 is certainly possible. I don't think you could win more than 2BB/100 8-tabling it though. I'd recommend looking on multiple sites if you're looking for the ability to ubertable 15/30+, as the selection dries up quite a bit at one or another.

What limits have you proven yourself to be a winner at so far?

Rob
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

There are plenty of good 15/30 tables. I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

Well I hope it is possible as I just made the move myself [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I started seriously playing on Jan 1st of this year after mostly being a bonus whore before that. I read SSH and began my journey on $2/4. I played about 90k hands and ran around 2.75bb/100 overall. I ran about 3.4bb/100 since June though, once I learned the art of thet semi-steal, blind steal, and blind defense. Thanks in large part to this post by Evan - Some general thoughts on blind stealing and the links inside it, especially the one by Nate on his 15 blind stealing experiment.

As of Dec. 10th I made the jump from 2/4 directly to 15/30. I was going to try 3/6, 5/10, and 10/20 first, but they are all mostly short handed games and I didn't want to have to pick up this new style, so I just said eff it. I was a little underolled for the 15 as I made some major withdrawals for xmas, but after watching the games and mining I felt I could beat it. So I took my 7k and said lets rock.

So far I've logged in about 10k hands and have ran around 2.5bb/100. Obviously these stats are rather meaningless at this point, but I have felt VERY comfortable at the level. There are definitely some adjustments to be made for aggression, but once you get a feel for it, it is not bad at all. I also make sure to practice very good table selection and there are very few times I play at a table w/o several fish and stats on everyone else. Also, the buddy list is your friend [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

With the good table selection the most games I have had going at once is 7, but I average around 3 tables as I don't mess around with lame TAG tables.

So that is my story and it seems like you are in a fairly similar boat. Good luck and keep us informed. I'll do the same.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

I've done about 2.85/100 at 2/4 while 8-tabling...

I'm not 100% sure if I can do this, but I'd like to give it a shot.

Thanks for the heads-up on winrate stuff, and "site selection", though.

OOC, can I expect my SD/100 to change at 15/30? That has the potential to dramatically change bankroll requirements (to the point where 15k will not be good enough), as does moving my winrate below 2/100.

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Old 12-27-2005, 05:15 AM
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Thanks for your response, bro. Good luck! I'll read those posts.

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Old 12-27-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

Your post has inspired me to take a stab at 15/30. I play 5/10 now and will move up as soon as I'm rolled (it will take some time). But I can't see why you so desperately need to play 8 tables at each limits. I think that might lead to your downfall.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:34 AM
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I'm sure you can. Personally, it took me about 6-months but I also spent a very long time at 5/10 and 10/20 6-max. My bankroll was large enough much earlier.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

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I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up

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Sorry to hijack this for a moment, but I am curious. Once you have tens of thousands of hands mined at the level, how is the data used while you are 8 tabling? I guess I am asking how you use it to make decisions when you have a couple of seconds per table to act.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

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I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up

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Sorry to hijack this for a moment, but I am curious. Once you have tens of thousands of hands mined at the level, how is the data used while you are 8 tabling? I guess I am asking how you use it to make decisions when you have a couple of seconds per table to act.

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You use a HUD like PokerAce.
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