River Confusion

MP is 60.6/3.3/.78 over 241 hands and has been getting some bad suckouts, including being vocal in the chatbox showing his disgust.

SB was 35.7/4.76/.85 over 42 hands, not a good read. I was not worried about the SB at all. I was more concerned with the MP because when he played, he usually had something worth playing.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

River: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

MP raise threw me off resulting in the call down. I couldn't figure out if there was any possible hand that he could beat me with since he showed weakness on the flop.

Final Pot: 13 BB

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Looks standard to me. I don't want to 3-bet a passive player who's obviously not bluffing a protected pot. I suspect you'll see K9/3/4 occasionally or J9 even more occasionally, but I think it's a legit flush often enough to just call.

[Roy6]

nm

[Spicymoose]

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MP raise threw me off resulting in the call down. I couldn't figure out if there was any possible hand that he could beat me with since he showed weakness on the flop.

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I am not exactly sure what you mean here. His play looks completely consistant with a flush draw that hit on the river. Calling is fine because you will win often enough, but raising is bad because you are not ahead 50% of the time (when he calls).

As for your reads...

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MP is 60.6/3.3/.78 over 241 hands

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I was more concerned with the MP because when he played, he usually had something worth playing.

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These two things don't line up. He is playing more than 60% of his hands, so when he plays, he can have almost any two cards.

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Looks standard to me. I don't want to 3-bet a passive player who's obviously not bluffing a protected pot. I suspect you'll see K9/3/4 occasionally or J9 even more occasionally, but I think it's a legit flush often enough to just call.

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I just started using PA recently. Could you tell me what tells you that he is passive?

[Spicymoose]

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Looks standard to me. I don't want to 3-bet a passive player who's obviously not bluffing a protected pot. I suspect you'll see K9/3/4 occasionally or J9 even more occasionally, but I think it's a legit flush often enough to just call.

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I just started using PA recently. Could you tell me what tells you that he is passive?

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In general, AG levels under 1.5 are pretty passive. If their VPIP is high (over 50), then under 1 is passive.

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As for your reads...

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MP is 60.6/3.3/.78 over 241 hands

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I was more concerned with the MP because when he played, he usually had something worth playing.

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These two things don't line up. He is playing more than 60% of his hands, so when he plays, he can have almost any two cards.

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That could have been (read, probably was) my misinterpretation of the reads. Also, could have been because he got me a few times when I least expected it. He has also been doing well more often than not on hands he had played.