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Old 11-29-2005, 12:15 PM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Can I fold TPTK?

Villan is 64/5/1.4. no other reads.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

What do you say guys? I say fold the flop and I want to hear it if I'm way off.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

Pot is pretty big. It seems like he probably has QJ, AsJs, or AsTx, As9x. I think you should call down because he is agressive, and could have a worse hand occasionally. If he was passive, I fold the turn.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:21 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

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I say fold the flop

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I'm way off.

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We easily could have the best hand.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

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Pot is pretty big. It seems like he probably has QJ, AsJs, or AsTx, As9x

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Sometimes I forget to look at pot size when I'm replying but I still think that CO probably has the flush or 2 pair or a set. Nor did I check his numbers....


Villian seems pretty passive to me. Due to pot size, the fishy and largely ineffective flop peel turn fold could be wise.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

just call down
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

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I say fold the flop

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I'm way off.

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We easily could have the best hand.

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I find that a lot of player overplay their hand w/ top pair on a monotone flop to try to drive out weak flush draws/better hands. I def. think folding the flop is a huge mistake.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

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I find that a lot of player overplay their hand w/ top pair on a monotone flop to try to drive out weak flush draws/better hands. I def. think folding the flop is a huge mistake.

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This isn't a case of someone overplaying their hand. This is either a monster, a very knowledgable player trying to represent one, or a LAG deciding to raise when given another chance. Villian's numbers aren't even borderline laggy.

I think you can call one sb and fold the turn UI.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:48 PM
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nh
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold TPTK?

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This isn't a case of someone overplaying their hand. This is either a monster, a very knowledgable player trying to represent one, or a LAG deciding to raise when given another chance. Villian's numbers aren't even borderline laggy.

I think you can call one sb and fold the turn UI.

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what are you hoping to see on the turn? what sort of range are you putting villain on that one more card will make such a difference against?
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