Flop decision w/ ATs

[OrianasDaad]

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

BB is extremely loose, and somewhat aggressive.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

I honestly expected more players to come.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ??

[Paxosmotic]

I'd raise, call a 3-bet, and fold the turn UI. I'd also be somewhat inclined to cap this flop and then fold if he leads the turn, that would at least let me sleep better at night knowing that I folded a losing hand instead of got pushed off a winning hand.

[gharp]

Fold. Pick a better flop to make a stand if you feel like you need to.

[eviljeff]

this is a read dependent, raise or fold situation. absent reads I muck.

[deception5]

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I'd also be somewhat inclined to cap this flop and then fold if he leads the turn, that would at least let me sleep better at night knowing that I folded a losing hand instead of got pushed off a winning hand.

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[Paxosmotic]

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I'd also be somewhat inclined to cap this flop and then fold if he leads the turn, that would at least let me sleep better at night knowing that I folded a losing hand instead of got pushed off a winning hand.

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It's not something I would do often, only against an overly aggressive LAG. Might get a little more action out of him on future hands if he thinks he's going to push you off of something.

[deception5]

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It's not something I would do often, only against an overly aggressive LAG. Might get a little more action out of him on future hands if he thinks he's going to push you off of something.

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ahh, gotcha.. Missed the fact that BB was loose aggressive.

Personally I would probably just call down in that case, raising if I hit.

[Paxosmotic]

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It's not something I would do often, only against an overly aggressive LAG. Might get a little more action out of him on future hands if he thinks he's going to push you off of something.

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ahh, gotcha.. Missed the fact that BB was loose aggressive.

Personally I would probably just call down in that case, raising if I hit.

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That's the other line I liked, as I'd like to get to a showdown and see what he'll defend with, if he'll lead with overcards, etc. I don't think this flop comes close to about 80% of the hands he's defending the blind with, so I'm surprised to see so many people say it's a fold. Just because it missed us doesn't mean it hit him.

[gharp]

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I don't think this flop comes close to about 80% of the hands he's defending the blind with

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I don't think you can narrow the holdings of a loose player down that much. If he's tight maybe.

This is a pretty scary (ie coordinated) flop to be calling down on, in my opinion. (Do you really want to see the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?) The pot is somewhat small and you don't have odds to draw to a pair so you're basically hoping your A-high hand is good and you don't get outdrawn. I'm not willing to invest the necessary 2.5BB to maybe win the roughly 3BB that are out there in this instance.

If the flop was something like 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], then I'd think about it...

[MrWookie47]

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Fold. Pick a better flop to make a stand if you feel like you need to.

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