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Old 12-21-2005, 04:13 PM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default $33 Party, QQ post flop.

5th hand in I believe, villain has put money in 2 of them, and doesn't appear to be tricky (but then again that is tough to tell from two hands).



Seat 1: Unibasjoe ( $770 )
Seat 2: Iris62 ( $800 )
Seat 3: JohnnyBeef ( $775 )
Seat 4: cjcorvers ( $960 )
Seat 5: torysad ( $800 )
Seat 6: Troya15 ( $635 )
Seat 7: mcdznuts ( $730 )
Seat 8: Fuglsang7 ( $1060 )
Seat 9: PELEXXX ( $800 )
Seat 10: DrCEast ( $670 )
Trny:18475875 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JohnnyBeef [ Qh Qd ]
Troya15 calls [15].
mcdznuts folds.
Fuglsang7 folds.
PELEXXX folds.
DrCEast folds.
Unibasjoe folds.
Iris62 folds.
JohnnyBeef raises [55].
cjcorvers calls [45].
torysad folds.
Troya15 calls [40].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Ad, Td ]
cjcorvers checks.
Troya15 checks.
JohnnyBeef checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
cjcorvers checks.
Troya15 checks.
JohnnyBeef bets [125].
cjcorvers folds.
Troya15 calls [125].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Troya15 checks
JohnnyBeef ??????
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Why?
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Check-behind
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.

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Yeah, it's not like there are any flush or straight draws out there, and there's absolutely no way you could have the best hand here and actually take down the pot, right?

It must be those reverse implied odds again that I don't understand, and that are so critical to doing well at the low buyin tables.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Yeah, it's not like there are any flush or straight draws out there, and there's absolutely no way you could have the best hand here and actually take down the pot, right?

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This is a pretty lousy flop for my hand because of the afformentioned things. I'd say the chances of getting checkraised here are fairly high.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Id say the chances of getting checkraised are not that high, although they arent that small either.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.

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Betting the flop is far from terrible. Man where does everyone here get their whacked out ideas about things like this? It's not mandatory to bet the flop but to call it terrible is ridiculous. You are giving both players the license to blow you out of the pot by betting the turn with nothing, and or the river. Not to mention they might end up beating your hand with a free card.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Ok, betting the flop isn't terrible, but it isn't the best line either imo.
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