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Old 12-10-2005, 03:41 AM
PickyTooth PickyTooth is offline
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5/10 NL. I limp T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG. A fairly weak passive player, a little on the weird side, makes it $35 from MP. Folded to me, I call.

We've both got 1K behind.

Flop:

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $10.

I call like a good little fishie.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check. He bets $50. I call.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check again. He bets $50 again.

I call.

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You're the weak passive one :P
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:54 AM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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I might have played it like you did against certain players at certain times.

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has three queens?

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has a straight?

If you thought the answers to those questions were no, then you played it best possible.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:15 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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I might have played it like you did against certain players at certain times.

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has three queens?

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has a straight?

If you thought the answers to those questions were no, then you played it best possible.

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I don't think he raises preflop with hands that make 3 queens or a straight. Weak passive making a preflop raise usually means AA-QQ, AK, sometimes JJ.

I have to admit, Tommy, some of your limit stories did come to mind as I was playing this hand.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:16 PM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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"I have to admit, Tommy, some of your limit stories did come to mind as I was playing this hand."

Full circle then. It was from playing tons of NL that that aspect of my limit game got that way.
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:21 AM
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I might have played it like you did against certain players at certain times.

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has three queens?

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has a straight?

If you thought the answers to those questions were no, then you played it best possible.

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I agree; if the answer is no he playede it fine... but; if he wont call a reraise with those hands you should be calling on the flop w/ any two. Most people call a very high % of the time w/ any Q on the river... let alone a straight (assuming a non-huge c/r). Rivr chk/call is gross; if your that nervous at least lead/call.

BTW negate all the above if for some reason you would call the river w/ 33 (i.e. you think he is on a complete bluff... but if he isnt he has the nuts). However i dont believe there is anyone whom i wouldnt raise this river against (and ive played lots of nits).
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:27 AM
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I find another bet in their somewhere. I see you dont want to get up against the KQ a weak nut peddler might have, but you gotta play a bigger pot here. He's prob got slick or AQ anyway. Prob AQ trying to suck you in with his gay bet.

Anyway, I would either c/r turn or just bet out turn.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:33 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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He had KK.

I think the play was to fold to the initial cutesy $10 bet.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:57 PM
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He had KK.

I think the play was to fold to the initial cutesy $10 bet.

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One man's cutesy bet is another man's fraidy-cat bet. I'd rather die than fold to a minbet when my hand stands even the slightest chance of improving.
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