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Old 12-26-2005, 07:41 PM
sofere sofere is offline
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Default Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1110)
UTG+1 (t3713)
CO (t765)
Hero (t2535)
SB (t862)
BB (t1015)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises t400</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, hero...
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

What's the big stack been up to? I definitely don't want to do anything dumb here against big stack. 6 players left, but that is going to change very quickly in this game.

If big stack is a solid player who just pwns like that, I could reraise. There are 1000 chips in the pot and I don't wanna let someone abuse me too much. But, against a lot of players I could just be a wuss and fold.
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

Not much in the way of reads that I can tell...looks like villain hasn't done anything extraordinary. At least nothing that curtains could have noticed while 10-tabling.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:16 AM
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pushing is a bad play since you'll only get called by 24 hands of overpair or 16 hands ok AK, overall garbage EV for this tournament since you're almost certainly endin up in the money by just chilling out. calling or raising a decent raise both seem debatable...
call:
If there's no reads whats so ever calling is not bad, since you'll have position, no need to neutralize that if he re-raises.
You'll have a chance to analyze the flop before committing more chips putting yourself in a spot of taking away your vast lead over most of the other players...
Raise:
he's chip leader, probably just flexing his muscles to fasten the game and stealing blinds, 10s is probably a favorite against his range of hands.
he's got a HUGE stack when not many ppl are out - probably (more than60%) didn't get there by playing very solid poker, unless its very low stakes like 5~10.
You are the two big stacks at the table, you'll probably be butting heads couple rounds from now when only a few ppl are left and the blinds have gone up, you wanna be the penis and him the vagina, not the other way around, since the ability to steal blinds is one of the most edges you can extract in high blinds crapshoot.

overall its a tough call to make. i tried to overanalyze this as much as i wanted to, but i'm sure there are more things to look at here.
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

This seems fishy, but what do you guys think of reraising to $1000 w/o any reads on villian? It gives the opportunity to fold if he comes over the top and still be in good position, but it can also take down the pot and represent strength. Or is this just asking to be reraised and effectively handing over your comfortable tournament standing?
Like i say, it seems fishy, but would it be viable if original bettor is likely to fold at least half the time?
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

I probably call looking to either move in on an overpair flop and play velly carefully on others.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

I don't like reraising to 1000 at all, as you are giving very good odds to call. Depending on the big stack I am either pushing or calling and seeing how the flop looks before committing any more chips.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:31 PM
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Pushing here is terrible IMHO, and reraising is even worse. Position still matters! Call and play careful poker.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:28 AM
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This seems fishy, but what do you guys think of reraising to $1000 w/o any reads on villian? It gives the opportunity to fold if he comes over the top and still be in good position, but it can also take down the pot and represent strength. Or is this just asking to be reraised and effectively handing over your comfortable tournament standing?

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I hate the reraise to 1000. It gives AK/AQ a chance to push over you. And if you fold there, you've just been owned.

I think the choices here could probably be ranked in the following order, from best to worst: call, fold, push, raise.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Curtains 4: TT Facing Minraise

I've come to the conclusion that if every opponent minraised me regardless of their hands, my ROI would be cut in half. Anytime I see it, I freeze up completely, expecting a monster. I'd fold here. And I know that's wrong.
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