TT first hand PUSH !

[tjh]

I am about three seats off of the button, middle late position.

Two players limp.

I look down and see 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Thinking I will give the "double up early or bust out with little time invested" strategy a try, I push.

One fold and then one player calls with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

My tens hold up and I double up.

Just some supporting evidence for the play. I felt like tens were a decent hand to try this. Not so good that I can play them with confidence on your avarage board but not so bad that a player sensing donkness might call with a worse pair.

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Just some supporting evidence for the play.

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This doesnt work in poker, terrible push.

[splashpot]

This is terrible. 90% of the time you'll pick up the 25 chip blinds. 9% of the time you'll get called by a hand better than yours. And 1% of the time you'll find an idiot like you did.

[tjh]

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This is terrible. 90% of the time you'll pick up the 25 chip blinds. 9% of the time you'll get called by a hand better than yours. And 1% of the time you'll find an idiot like you did.

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And your point is ??
I either bust out and start a new tourney and have a second chance to get a decent return on my money as I have almost no time invested. Or I double up and have twice the chance of winning this one. So therefore even a slight chance that they call with worse hands makes this a positive EV move.

The first couple hands are a special opportunity. Lots of maniac moves before the feeling that "time is invested and we should play seriously" mood sets in.

I think we should consider the first few hands an opportunity for some special strategy. By hand #5 unless I am seeing lots of madness I would NEVER try this. Hand #1 is different.

Take a look at your hand histories.. the first orbit is idiot land.

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tjh

[bigt439]

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Take a look at your hand histories.. the first orbit is idiot land.


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You're proving this point way better than any other one.

[aLOWdAkING]

I haven't played the $5+1s for a long time, but that is probably the only level where it will work at.

[wiggs73]

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Or I double up and have twice the chance of winning this one.

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No.

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So therefore even a slight chance that they call with worse hands makes this a positive EV move.

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No.

[splashpot]

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Or I double up and have twice the chance of winning this one.

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No.

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So therefore even a slight chance that they call with worse hands makes this a positive EV move.

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No.

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Actually, that first one is true.....isn't it? Twice the chipEV = twice the chance of winning.

[tigerite]

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Or I double up and have twice the chance of winning this one.

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No.

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So therefore even a slight chance that they call with worse hands makes this a positive EV move.

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No.

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Actually, that first one is true.....isn't it? Twice the chipEV = twice the chance of winning.

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No, because chipEV isn't really a good indication anyway; it's something like 1.8x more likely you'll win by ICM, but I think even that is too high.

[roundest]

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And your point is ??
I either bust out and start a new tourney and have a second chance to get a decent return on my money as I have almost no time invested. Or I double up and have twice the chance of winning this one. So therefore even a slight chance that they call with worse hands makes this a positive EV move.


The first couple hands are a special opportunity. Lots of maniac moves before the feeling that "time is invested and we should play seriously" mood sets in.

I think we should consider the first few hands an opportunity for some special strategy. By hand #5 unless I am seeing lots of madness I would NEVER try this. Hand #1 is different.

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Wow. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]