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zambonidrivr · #31 11-14-2005, 10:23 AM

1. you are in a limped pot
2. three way action,.. bets raises, calls
3. you are holding top pair with garbage kicker
4. its early in the tourney and you have just pissed your stack away. if you can't find better spots to get your money in with, you suck

ansky451 · #32 11-14-2005, 10:34 AM

Thats a hell of a lot better than your first response, but I'd still like to hear where you'd play the hand differently.

kuro · #33 11-14-2005, 10:37 AM

Yes, there range is big but you have a hand that is too weak to stand up to pressure without improvement on subsequent streets and unless you hit a non club 8 you won't even know if your hand improved. Without a read, I just don't believe you fold out two players on the flop, avoid paying off value bets from the hands that are ahead of you, avoid folding the best hand to a scare card bluff, or showdown the winning hand enough to make your flop bet profitable.

zambonidrivr · #34 11-14-2005, 10:42 AM

10h 9h MP is an instant fold for me. This is not deep stack poker. Blinds are worthless at this level, and getting involved with a holding like this is pointless to me. I realize it's great to mix it up, but I am looking to get my chips in better spots this early.

Roman · #35 11-14-2005, 10:52 AM

you most definitely overplayed this pot, dont overcompensate by overplaying the river too.

ansky451 · #36 11-14-2005, 10:53 AM

Folding PF here is absurd.

90 big blinds and any suited connector I'm playing in this spot. It doesnt need to be that deep. A PF fold here is uber-weak tight IMO.

zambonidrivr · #37 11-14-2005, 10:56 AM

not for me. guess that's the sng mentality. Hell, I fold AJ here. LOL.

ansky451 · #38 11-14-2005, 11:02 AM

Yeah that is very bad for MTTs.

I'd be willing to lay 5-1 that less than 5% of the forum folds in this spot.

kuro · #39 11-14-2005, 11:03 AM

Folding suited connectors for cheap on the button with big stack is completely absurd in a MTT. You can't fold your way to the bubble in a MTT like you can in a STT and use your tight image / knowledge of short hand play to make a profit. If you try to employ the extremely weak tight early strategy that is successful in STT in MTT, you'll never build a big stack and are very unlikely to show profit.

Jason Strasser · #40 11-14-2005, 11:48 AM

I pretty much agree with this assesment.

I also think that you didn't play this hand very well, Exit. I think that your flop raise is going to chase a lot of the hands you want in this pot away. Charging people to draw is a concern, but a bigger concern IMO is keeping hands like lower pairs around.

If you call the flop and he leads the turn, and you think he is drawing, then go ahead and raise if he is not tricky, with the plan to check behind the river. If he is tricky, it's probably a call/fold spot. The way you played it, I'm not sure what your logic is except that 'I have top pair so I Bet'.

-Jason