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Old 12-03-2005, 08:22 AM
Taraz Taraz is offline
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Default $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

This was a tough hand for me. Do you lay this down? It was the 3rd or 4th hand, so no reads really.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t1200)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
MP1 (t985)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t2025)
CO (t1000)
Hero (t990)
SB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t50, UTG calls t50.

Flop: (t267.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t250</font>, Hero??
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

I think you have to let him have this one. With JJ it becomes interesting though.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?


His hefty c-b on this very draw friendly flop certainly is consistant with an overpair (to yours). He's committing a ton of chips here, despite you in position...a little less unlikely line with a whiffed AK or the like. With two to act after you as well, this is one I think you need to get away from.
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

Anyone folding this preflop?
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

No, not on the button. Too much advantage to be had with position on the flop v preflop raiser, and all that jazz.
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

I would fold this. The bet is too big for being cbet. Smells like value bet with overpair and scared of draws.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

I would lay this one down but I wouldn't like it. Nothing wrong with the call preflop.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

I'm going to fold too, he's betting into 3 other people on a draw heavy board, he's got an overpair most of the time. Looks like a value bet to me
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: $55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

How 'bout if he'd bet t160? Assuming 1/2-pot you'd consider a cont. bet, how much larger than 1/2 pot does it have to be before it crosses over into value bet territory?
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