turn bet?

brettbrettr · #1 05-01-2005, 11:34 PM

quick question, you guys betting this turn?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks,

New001 · #2 05-01-2005, 11:35 PM

I am and taking a free showdown if offered.

27offsooot · #3 05-01-2005, 11:39 PM

I check it. You're seeing a river regardless and I would rather pay fewer bets to do so. You don't have enough equity for it to be for value as well.

Edit - I forgot to add some outs in there. Like ColdCash said, it could be for value here if at least 2 call

zeropotential · #4 05-01-2005, 11:41 PM

check to:
see if you make your draw
make just as much money if you do, loose no more if you don't

cold_cash · #5 05-01-2005, 11:49 PM

I think you probably have around 14-15 outs, so that's good.

You'd need 2 callers to bet it for value.

So what do I know? I know that it's really close.

brettbrettr · #6 05-01-2005, 11:50 PM

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You don't have enough equity for it to be for value as well.

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I don't? Even eliminating my overs as dirty I've got the clubs and 4 tens. 13 outs, 2.5:1, 4 way pot, bet, no?

chesspain · #7 05-01-2005, 11:54 PM

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You don't have enough equity for it to be for value as well.

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I don't? Even eliminating my overs as dirty I've got the clubs and 4 tens. 13 outs, 2.5:1, 4 way pot, bet, no?

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1)You don't know how many players are going to call a bet.
2)It would suck to get raised, which is a distinct possibility with so many cards in the playing zone.

27offsooot · #8 05-01-2005, 11:55 PM

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You don't have enough equity for it to be for value as well.

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I don't? Even eliminating my overs as dirty I've got the clubs and 4 tens. 13 outs, 2.5:1, 4 way pot, bet, no?

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yeah, i can't add, after reading CC's post, i edited my own. Go ahead and bet it b/c u have some folding equity against a jack or something and if someone else is drawing you could take it down even if one or two others call UI.

chesspain · #9 05-02-2005, 12:02 AM

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Go ahead and bet it b/c u have some folding equity against a jack or something

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I doubt that most players who coldcall PF with a jack and then coldcall this flop are folding this turn for one bet.

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and if someone else is drawing you could take it down even if one or two others call UI.

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Huh?

New001 · #10 05-02-2005, 12:10 AM

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It would suck to get raised, which is a distinct possibility with so many cards in the playing zone.

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You have 12 outs to the nuts, and two overcards which may or may not be good. You obviously don't want to get raised, but I don't think it's so bad, especially if other people come along.