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Old 10-14-2005, 09:55 PM
Gramps Gramps is offline
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Default Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

I don't like to hate on people like this, but when Sklansky "annoits" you, you just can't make plays like this...

....Pusher was a tad on the aggressive side (for a Step 5), but nothing unreasonable - maybe top 1/8 hands or so here....

***** Hand History for Game 2877657745 *****
100/200 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16590976) - Fri Oct 14 21:15:04 EDT 2005
Table Step 5 1068697 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: StraightPair (960)
Seat 3: Herodotus (1945)
Seat 5: wchen (910)
Seat 7: dedragon_fly (1845)
Seat 8: picilsinsope (1500)
Seat 9: s87l91k (1060)
Seat 10: MustSeeFlops (1780)
Herodotus posts small blind (50)
wchen posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
dedragon_fly folds.
picilsinsope folds.
s87l91k raises (1060) to 1060
s87l91k is all-In.
MustSeeFlops folds.
StraightPair folds.
Herodotus folds.
<font color="blue"> wchen calls (810) </font>
wchen is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1870 with wchen
Creating Side Pot 1 with $150 with s87l91k
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, Js, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9c ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1870 | Side Pot 1: 150
Board: [ 8c Js Tc 4c 9c ]
StraightPair balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
Herodotus balance 1895, lost 50 (folded)
wchen balance 0, lost 910 <font color="blue"> [ 2h 2d ] </font> [ a pair of twos -- Js,Tc,9c,2h,2d ]
dedragon_fly balance 1845, didn't bet (folded)
picilsinsope balance 1500, didn't bet (folded)
s87l91k balance 2020, bet 1060, collected 2020, net +960 [ Th As ] [ a pair of tens -- As,Js,Th,Tc,9c ]
MustSeeFlops balance 1780, didn't bet (folded)

...Anyone want to make an arguemnt that a call here is at least close?
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:09 PM
applejuicekid applejuicekid is offline
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

Yuck...

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...Anyone want to make an arguemnt that a call here is at least close?

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Could someone please do this? This call just looks horrible in my opinion.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

Who's this wchen guy? I don't play the step 5s but I fail to see how this can be a good call.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:15 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

horrible call

someone overvalues low pps...
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:18 PM
JudoGirl JudoGirl is offline
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

just curious, who is wchen and can you provide me a link to where sklansky commented on him? thx.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:20 PM
applejuicekid applejuicekid is offline
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

Here's the link for sklansky's top ten
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

Anyone have the link to the "Ten Smartest Poker Players" thread? I guess Sklansky's arrogance in parts of that thread rubbed me the wrong way, and when his "#1 smartest poker player" makes plays like that, it makes me smile.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

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horrible call

someone overvalues low pps...

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There must be more to it than that. I don't know who William Chen is, but if Sklansky says he is the smartest player he is not just some donk who likes pairs. There must be some reasoning behind this call.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:27 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

why must there be some reasoning?

22 is barely a favorite to random cards...it's beaten by so many holdings it isn't funny

he overvalued 22 or got impatient when he had 8bbs left and decided to gamble
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Another interesting hand from the game\'s \"smartest player\"

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why must there be some reasoning?

22 is barely a favorite to random cards...it's beaten by so many holdings it isn't funny

he overvalued 22 or got impatient when he had 8bbs left and decided to gamble

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The thing is, the times I've played with the dude in the 215s, he's not loose or impatient at all - he'll fold down his stack quite a ways. My guess is it's a case of CEV analysis gone wrong (pot odds), or a misclick of sorts...but that AJo hand that ZJ posted a while back makes me think the former...
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