I need all sorts of help. Please keep it coming.

callmedonnie · #1 03-01-2005, 10:32 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t2125)
Hero (t1230)
SB (t2005)
BB (t2640)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I'm having trouble with my short-handed play. Raise, and if so how much?

Baked67 · #2 03-01-2005, 10:37 PM

Easy Push.

Jman28 · #3 03-01-2005, 11:44 PM

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Easy Push.

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stripsqueez · #4 03-01-2005, 10:38 PM

when the BB gets to T300 or more never raise just push - this is an auto push - if UTG raises i might fold - if he limps i would push

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

Slim Pickens · #5 03-01-2005, 11:48 PM

Push, get called by the BB with KTo, lose, and move on to the next tournament knowing you made the correct play and that sort of behavior makes you money in the long run.

Slim

Scuba Chuck · #6 03-02-2005, 12:58 AM

The only hands that you don't have all your chips in the middle here are the ones you fold. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

If you really want to make this an interesting thread, as the chorus has this as a EZ...

Repost the exact same Preflop info, blinds, position, stacks, etc. and post the following 5 hands in a poll.
9Ts
K2o
J9o
Q3s
93s

Ask the forum which hands they push with. Now you'll find some interesting info.

Geo · #7 03-02-2005, 09:55 AM

Scuba

I would push with any two here, cards are secondary. I have been questioning my play in this type of scenario and would like some other peoples thoughts on this
Of your choices I think I would prefer 9 10s or Q 3s to go allin with

Scuba Chuck · #8 03-02-2005, 11:25 AM

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Scuba

I would push with any two here, cards are secondary. I have been questioning my play in this type of scenario and would like some other peoples thoughts on this
Of your choices I think I would prefer 9 10s or Q 3s to go allin with

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I don't have all the answers. And I'm still learning how to apply this math stuff right, so maybe this is a way to think about it.

If you push your 1230 chips in the middle, and there's already 600 chips in the pot, the BB is calling 800 chips into an 1830 pot. That's 2.28:1 Pot Odds. Which suggests you should push the top 44% of hands. Which makes the Q3s marginal, and the 93s a fold.

Unfortunately, this analysis doesn't take FE into question. There is some FE against both the SB and BB. This is why I think OP would find this an interesting post, if he just has the balls to do it.

mackthefork · #9 03-02-2005, 11:51 AM

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If you push your 1230 chips in the middle, and there's already 600 chips in the pot, the BB is calling 800 chips into an 1830 pot. That's 2.28:1 Pot Odds. Which suggests you should push the top 44% of hands. Which makes the Q3s marginal, and the 93s a fold.

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I wouldn't push 93s here unless the blinds were making a lot of soft folds I might well push it if I had 2000 in chips in the same spot though.

Regards Mack

Scuba Chuck · #10 03-02-2005, 03:27 PM

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I wouldn't push 93s here unless the blinds were making a lot of soft folds I might well push it if I had 2000 in chips in the same spot though.

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Correct Mack, with 2000 chips, assuming BB will look at calling this hands from purely a pot odds standpoint, the math says pushing with any two is correct, assuming you're using pot odds as the sole reason for this decision.

It could also be correct from an FE standpoint as well.