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Old 12-01-2005, 05:32 AM
TBag TBag is offline
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Default I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

Hey guys, I'm putting together a mid-upper performance PC. The effect I'm really trying to get here is good performance while not ludicrously expensive (no 1k processors). Also, I've only built one PC and that was about 2 years ago (hence the replacing now) and if you guys could lemme know if I forgot anything and/or some of the stuff I'm buying won't be compatible with other stuff, that'd be awesome. Anyways here's the specs -

Thermaltake Tsunami ATX Case
Two WD Raptor 74GB 10k RPM ATA150 hard drives. (which works with raid, right?)
Asus A8n-SLI 939 deluxe mobo
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
XFX Geforce 7800GTX 256MB vid card
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1gb) 184-pin DDR 400 ram
Windows media edition

So yeah, that's what I have in my "wish list" I suppose. Those two raptor drives would work for RAID right? I don't really know anything about RAID or have ever used it, but I hear it's good for data transfer speeds which leads me to believe it'd be solid for my pokertracker database. Thoughts?

I'm also not sure on the video card, is getting 7800 GTX over a GT worth the price difference?

Also concerning the SLI mumbo jumbo - I hear that if you plan on dual monitoring, the SLI won't do any good. Is this true?

Thanks for looking guys.
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

Looks fine, but the RAID 0 thing is overrated. You wont notice much improvement in speed, and if one drive goes out, you lose it all.

For specific Parts:

Case is Fine, though I prefer some others, its all aesthetics.

HDs are very nice, forget about the RAID though, just buy 1 Raptor for your sys drive and one of the 7200RPM 400 Gig drives for storage.

Mobo is good

Processor is top of the line. You could go lower and still be able to game though, the 3800 is the sweet spot right now I think. Or at least it was last week.

Video Card is solid. You could go with the regular GT though. Also, I would recommend the BFG GTX since it's overclocked already.

RAM is good

OS is good.


You dont need the SLI, and it will work for Dual monitor I think. Though the gain is ~15-20% for SLI, for buying 2X the Vid Card.

And try pricing it at Monarch Computer I just had them build my Dual Opteron 250 for me.

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Old 12-01-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

Thanks for the input =P. Yeah, I know I'm not taking advantage of the SLI but I thought in the future if I ever want to upgrade again it'd be nice to have the option.

I really appreciate the advice on the raid drives, as I know very little about all of that. If I do decide to go for raid, what would be the performance boost? Is it that minimal? The thought that if one dies I lose everything is also very unattractive though. I'm gonna have to rethink getting those raids, I think I'm leaning toward what you recommended though.

Lastly, I had a question about the power supply too. I'm currently thinking about the Antec TruepowerII linky. I hear it's a bad idea to skimp on the PSU, but although this one is comparatively cheap, it seems to have gotten really good reviews. However, the catch seems to be it's low watt count - it only has 550W. Is 550W enough power for this computer? Apparently it's SLI compatible if I ever chose to go that route but I'm not quite sure if it'll be strong enough. Would 600W or more be better?

Thanks again, all input is greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

I agree with everything C said.

500W is plenty.

RAID 0 is overrated. I'd much rather have a fat internal drive and use the money to buy an external USB drive for backups.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

Wow, this is only very slightly better than my computer, but I get the feeling you are going to be paying way more for it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:28 PM
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The Antec Power supply is fine, and the performance boost for RAID 0 is not that much. It is certainly not worth the cost, or the additional risk.

C-Dog
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: I\'m building a gaming / poker PC, I need help!

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Wow, this is only very slightly better than my computer, but I get the feeling you are going to be paying way more for it.

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Hey there. Would you mind listing specs of your machine and how much it costed you? I'm very open to suggestions that will significantly reduce cost with minimal hits to performance.

Edit, I have also removed RAID from my wishlist, thanks for the input guys =P
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:26 AM
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Get two hard drives (placing the swap file on a secondary disk is a huge performance boost alone), but skip the RAID array like everyon said. 1 GB of RAM is fine, but I have 2 GB and I definitely use 75% of it (I do a lot of multitasking, though). I suggest looking into a case that supports water-intercooling for your processor and video card(s) so you can easily support overclocking and have a quieter running case (no need for tons of exhaust fans).
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:22 AM
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I was looking into watercooling stuff, but quite frankly that stuff looks very intimidating and risky considering I wouldn't know what I was doing with it. Is the extra cost + (seemingly, again, I'm clueless) hassle worth the benefits? I don't think I'll be overclocking anything because I'm very risk averse where it seems like one slip up could cost me my processor and vid card.

Also, what is the swap file you're talking about? Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:11 AM
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Watercooling is quite safe since it's not a high-pressure system, however, if you are not comfortable with it, don't do it!

The swap file is a pagefile that is used for virtual memory when you run out of RAM or need to copy large files. It's basically the buffer for your computer. Placing it on a secondary hard drive will yield optimal performance.
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