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Old 09-15-2005, 08:29 PM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default 3-betting flop for ???

is this appropriate?

villain is 17.3/12.6/1.78 after 530 hands

i don't think my raise is really for a free card as the subject indicates because if he has an ace there's only 2 cards that will help me. so is there any point in raising? i've 3-bet before in situations like this, and sometimes on complete bluffs, so is such a move profitable? if i'm not going to raise i can't see calling as a good choice because certainly he'll bet out again on the turn. should i call down? swallow my pride and give up my krangs?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG checks, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (6.17 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.17 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.17 BB.

edit: looking at this again maybe it's appropriate and then follow it up with a bet on the turn and folding to any further aggression by him. ja?
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting flop for ???

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so is there any point in raising?

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No. WA/WB situation. Easy call down.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:22 PM
deepsquat deepsquat is offline
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Default Re: 3-betting flop for ???

i think this will be an Ace a very huge % of the time vs this villain. The board is pretty dry and in terms of draws.

Raising for a free card here is ridiculous, you will be spending an extra SB to hit a 22-1 shot.

3betting here is spewing imo. Id be very tempted to fold to the flop raise.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:40 AM
Xhiggy Xhiggy is offline
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Default Re: 3-betting flop for ???

I much rather bet the turn and then check-behind on the river unimproved here, since you don't want to give any free cards to an opponent who would have folded to your turn bet. I think that line is superior to possibly enticing a river bluff in this situation.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting flop for ???

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I much rather bet the turn and then check-behind on the river unimproved here, since you don't want to give any free cards to an opponent who would have folded to your turn bet. I think that line is superior to possibly enticing a river bluff in this situation.

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so check behind on the flop? what about if i get bet into or check/raised on the turn?
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