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Old 08-07-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

A successful way to win. Win deprived Democrats may want to try this.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

Such a strange post...

John KERRY 57,288,974 (252)

George BUSH 60,608,582 (286)

Here are the final tallies from the 2004 Presidential Election. True, a clear win for George Bush...but not a landslide, for God's sake. 57M Americans thought John Kerry would be a better man for the job. George Bush garnered only 51% of the popular vote. Almost half the voters who showed up voted for someone else.

In the Senate, the Republicans did gain four seats. How many do they now have? 55. Not 70 or 80...55. A bit over half. The rest of the country has either Democrats or that Independent guy from Vermont. And yet, gaining ground to have 55% of the Senate was probably the biggest win for the Republicans in terms of electoral coups.

Also...in the House, the Democrats lost four seats, the Reps. gained two. The Republicans now have a 53% majority in the House...significant, yes, but not enough to run roughshod over the opposition party.

Given that Pres. Bush's approval ratings are anywhere from the high 30s to the low 40s, is it so farfetched that the Democrats may not have to resort to bribery to win the White House in 2008?
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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57M Americans thought John Kerry would be a better man for the job.

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I think 57M Americans knew and cared more about Bush's mistakes than Kerry's. Exageration for effect, btw.

I hate Bush, but I dislked Kerry more.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

Maybe they should just rig it like Bush did in 2000...
Heil!
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:35 AM
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Being bitter wasn't part of the equasion.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:51 AM
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Being bitter wasn't part of the equasion.

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I realize it's often petty to critique someone over spelling/grammar/verbiage; goodness knows I've had my fair share of spelling mistakes/awkwardly phrased sentences, etc.

Yet I see you, FishHooks, complaining that you get 'flamed' a lot; If you're looking to be taken more seriously, I sincerely suggest that you consider double-checking your spelling before you post.

Even though I concede spelling shouldn't matter, I really do think some simple edits would go a long way in achieving the respectability you feel you aren’t getting.

Aesthetics matter, whether they ought to or not.

My 2 cents, take it or leave it.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:23 AM
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I know I should, I barely ever review for spelling mistakes. However if you consider I've had 1100 posts and say I spend 1 minute looking over spelling and grammar in each post, that's over 18 hours alone. I'm just used to useing microsoft word and it automatically fixing my errors as I write.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:21 AM
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Being bitter wasn't part of the equasion.

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The theory behind an election is that every citizen has a vote and together as a whole the result of that vote dictates the actions of the electoral college. During the 2000 election tens of thousands of Florida residents were not allowed to cast their ballots. Gore lost by less then six hundred votes in the state of Florida. The twenty five electoral votes that Gore did not recieve was the reason he lost the 2000 election. The people that were not allowed to vote were mostly african americans registered as democrats. Florida contracted a private company DBT to determine which citizens were allowed to vote.

At the time, Florida was the only state that hired a private company to do this. DBT then removed over twenty thousand registered voters inside the state of Florida and illegally barred them from voting.

Now felons are not allowed to vote. DBT took a national database of felons from across the country, and compared their surnames to the registered voters within Florida, and if there was a match, that law abiding citizen who had done nothing wrong WAS BARRED FROM VOTING.
So you may be Mr. Langston FishHooks of Dade County, Florida, but there is a Mr. Sonny FishHooks of Grand County, Oklahoma, who committed a double homicide back in 88, well, he's not allowed to vote. Thanks to DBT, you wouldn't be allowed to vote either because they classified you as the same person.

Now this really happened. Most of the people that were barred were African Americans. The news here didn't talk about it and Michael Moore glossed over it in Fareinheit 9/11. The NAACP, however, sued the state of Florida over this blatent violation of the constitution and won...
Am I bitter? I am not bitter. Bush is still the president. Chaney still runs the white house. I am far from bitter...Bitter is something you label a man who doesn't trust a network newscast and doesn't believe that foxnews is "fair and balanced", bitter is what you label someone who wasn't stupid enough to believe that Bush honestly thought that there were WMD's in Iraq, or that Saddam was linked to Al Quida...Bitter is logic to you.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:31 PM
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You have been brainwashed by propaganda. He actually used something Michael Moore said in his defence, heh nice one.

I dont have a problem with FELONS not allowed to vote. Voting is a privilege not a right.

When you say they did this whole surname thing, if thats true that is wrong, but what's to say it barred more democrats then republicans from voting.

With the whole African American thing, can you show me some stats on this?

Saddam was linked to Al Queda, read the 9/11 commission report.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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Saddam was linked to Al Queda, read the 9/11 commission report.

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Good idea.

I especially like p. 352 paragraph 4:

Responding to a presidential tasking, Clarke’s office sent a memo to Rice
on September 18, titled “Survey of Intelligence Information on Any Iraq
Involvement in the September 11 Attacks.” Rice’s chief staffer on Afghanistan,
Zalmay Khalilzad, concurred in its conclusion that only some anecdotal evidence
linked Iraq to al Qaeda.The memo found no “compelling case” that Iraq
had either planned or perpetrated the attacks. It passed along a few foreign
intelligence reports, including the Czech report alleging an April 2001 Prague
meeting between Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer (discussed in chapter 7)
and a Polish report that personnel at the headquarters of Iraqi intelligence in
Baghdad were told before September 11 to go on the streets to gauge crowd
reaction to an unspecified event.Arguing that the case for links between Iraq
and al Qaeda was weak, the memo pointed out that Bin Ladin resented the
secularism of Saddam Hussein’s regime. Finally, the memo said, there was no
confirmed reporting on Saddam cooperating with Bin Ladin on unconventional
weapons.

Page 84, paragraph 3 is pretty good, too.

But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier
contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship. Nor
have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing
or carrying out any attacks against the United States.


Damned liberal 9/11 Commission report. It looks like they've been brainwashed by propaganda, too.
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