Played craps with TJ Cloutier

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You worked as a dealer and you don't understand the rules. I haven't played in years, but can still tell you that:

1. You can make a pass line bet at any time, but may not remove a pass line bet once the point is established.
2. The odds bet is always a neutral EV bet and the pass line is a -EV bet for the player once the point is established, and should therefore always be welcomed regardless of # of times odds allowed by the house. You are correct though that placing would be even more advantageous.

I take it back about working at my company though. We have plenty of people who do a good job, even though they don't understand the reasons behind their job functions.

I know, I'm being a smartass. No harm meant.

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1. it was like 7 years ago and did it for 6 months on weekends, i cant be expectred to recall such obscurity.
2. did you even read what i explained above about the edge a player would have if they were allowed to make pass line bets after the come out? all the bets on the table are negative ev, except the odds. i dont think they are going to let you make a pass line bet just because its negative ev. why would they give you the chance to put a large portion of your money in play with neutral ev, when they can force you to put it all in play negatively?. is this some sort of magical loophole?

i dug up my dealer school's "craps dealer reference manual". under section "making and removing of wagers", it says "A wager made on any bet may be removed or reduced at any time prior to a roll that decides the outcome of such wager. A pass bet and a come bet shall not be wagered, increased, removed, or reduced, after a come-out point or come point is established with respect to such bet ", and it also says " A player cannot make a pass or dont pass bet after the point is established, but he/she could place the point, buy the point, or buy behind the point"

im gonna skim through a little more, but i think the above makes me not crazy. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
you guys hiring?

edit: i just found this on the net: No matter what stage the game is in, whether on the "Come Out" roll, or in progress, you can jump in immediately and place any bets. The only exception to this is the bet called the "Pass Line" bet with odds", which can be made only on the "Come Out" roll. You can, however, bet with the shooter even while the game is in progress by placing a "Pass Line" bet without odds. Placing your chips halfway over one of the two lines framing the "Pass Line" area does this.

if correct,this sort of ties together what everybody is saying, you can make pass line bets, but cant take odds. that would make sense from a casino point of view.