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Old 12-10-2005, 02:48 AM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default clarkmeistering the turn?

This hand comes out of my mutual sweating session with A_K. We met in the coach exchange thread! It was a lot of fun. A_K is a set flopping *machine*, and he didn't berate me after i limped QTo in MP3 after 3 limpers.

Villain is 50/3/0.45 over 100 hands. He is a donkey. He has donked the river twice against me, once with UI A6s after i raised preflop and lead the whole way.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB folds.

<font color="blue">No idea who might bet or where the bet would come from, so a check/raise is out. Leading is the next best thing, right? Or should i just check and observe the action and re-evaluate?</font>

Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds.

Villain had the "raise any" box checked (or has a super fast index finger). A standard Clarkmeister is to do this on the river, but i thought a lot of the advantages are available here on the turn: I have some fold equity, i don't get raised by a worse hand (though i contemplated calling because of his donkiness and the fishy autoraise situation), plus i might have the best hand.

More importantly, i had no idea what i would do if i checked and he bet. Just give up?

Also, how are you proceeding if he just calls and the river is a blank. Do i check and hope he checks behind or that i induce a bluff? Check/fold? Bet again (this pretty clearly sucks, as worse hands aren't calling but better hands aren't folding).
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