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Old 10-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Taraz Taraz is offline
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Default $55: Overpair in level 1

Do you lead the flop here? Do you like a checkraise all-in? Just curious as to what people's "standard" play is.

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MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t1030)
SB (t985)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
Hero (t1000)
UTG+2 (t985)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t75, CO calls t75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t322.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t125</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: t447.50
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

I fold here. I have to give some respect to an EP raise pre-flop.

Plus, if you put him on an A and another overcard, he has an inside straight draw as well. He's about 40% to outdraw you in that scenario. Reduces both your FE and your chances of winning, in one of the best scenarios for you. And you could very easily be way behind.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise. Or raise instead of open limp.

Both of those lines I like better than the way you played it.

Limp fold I like to do early to set up the limp/rr later.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:21 PM
B1GF1SHY B1GF1SHY is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

His flop bet seems very weak for such a strong preflop raise. I think I fold this preflop but since you called, I raise here after putting him on AK or AQ.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

I like the preflop limp-call.

I don't want to open raise as I'd hate being reraised and closing the action by folding for 60 more isn't an option for me with these stacks.

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His flop bet seems very weak

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I agree and would push this.

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Old 10-12-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

I fold. At best, you're looking at two overcards (one likely an A), making you only a 3:2 favorite. Not the kind of odds I want on an all-in level 1. And that's assuming he does have two overs. You're calling for set value. You missed the flop. Fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:44 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

no, at best he has Ax and he folds to your c/r.

i think calling, raising, or folding would be ok. if you call, it could to call the flop and check/fold the turn or call the flop and lead the turn.

i would probably call and plan on check/folding the turn.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

Fold preflop after the raise.

Blinds are small, and with the exception of flopping a set... Im not sure exactly what you are trying to do here other than getting yourself into trouble.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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no, at best he has Ax and he folds to your c/r.

i think calling, raising, or folding would be ok. if you call, it could to call the flop and check/fold the turn or call the flop and lead the turn.

i would probably call and plan on check/folding the turn.

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I agree that all 3 options seem ok, but I would lean toward folding. The bet seem weak, but it is into 4 players all of who called a raise preflop, so any bet is strength.

To those who advocate folding preflop - I like a coldcall. You are way getting the implied odds to stack someone when you hit your set.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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To those who advocate folding preflop - I like a coldcall. You are way getting the implied odds to stack someone when you hit your set.

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Why? You are betting 60 after the raise, you hit a set once every 8.5 times on the flop, and you might get paid off one out of two times you hit the set. It's still reasonable, but it's not completely obvious.
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