Bet River for Value?

waynethetrain · #1 05-25-2005, 12:31 PM

Sorry for all the hands. This is the last one. I still have trouble with river betting for value and I wanted opinions on this one before I leave, so when I get back I read them. The A on the board and the turn call threw me off a little.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, Button calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Disconnected · #2 05-25-2005, 01:13 PM

You need reads to be confident in betting or checking here, both looseness and aggressiveness. If villain is really tight, I would check in front, especially with such a weak kicker. If he's loose, I'm betting this. The more passive, the more inclined I am to bet, as an aggressive player would have been more likely to raise the turn. Unknown, I'd bet.

What would you have done had villain bet instead of checked? If you would have called his bet, you are better off leading out.

Nit: next time, don't show the river action, especially the fact that he checked it behind you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Jaran · #3 05-25-2005, 01:19 PM

I bet this river, but I'm an idiot.

-Jaran

MrWookie47 · #4 05-25-2005, 01:29 PM

If he's a rock, there's a good chance he's calling you with a better Q, so checking is good. If he's LPP, he could very well be calling you with Jx or 7x, so pony up, grit your teeth and value bet. I'm not worried about the A given the lack of turn raise.

DMBFan23 · #5 05-25-2005, 01:32 PM

I havent read the post yet but I would bet the river for value.

Sarge85 · #6 05-25-2005, 02:05 PM

Anyone else "Check and See" this flop?

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

irishpint · #7 05-25-2005, 02:13 PM

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I havent read the post yet but I would bet the river for value.

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how is that helpfull? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

irishpint · #8 05-25-2005, 02:15 PM

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Anyone else "Check and See" this flop?

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Nope, I bet. If we check it gives him a reason to bet. when given the choice id much rather be in control of the hand.

Redd · #9 05-25-2005, 02:15 PM

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Anyone else "Check and See" this flop?

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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I would with a bigger field, but against 2 opponents?

Disconnected · #10 05-25-2005, 02:18 PM

I wouldn't, since I want overcards out of the hand.

What would your plan be if MP1 bets? Buttton?