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Old 05-19-2005, 10:36 AM
VinnyTheFish VinnyTheFish is offline
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Default WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
Bison does not seen to have a Prima converter.
I just had to get this out.


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Game: 352187034: Table: One Reason
Normal Table Fixed Limit 3.00/6.00

Seat: 2
Seat: 4 TheFish [ K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 5
Seat: 6 (Dealer)

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OpeningBetRound
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Seat 1 : Posts small blind 1.50
Seat 2 : Posts big blind 3.00
TheFish : Raises for 6.00
Seat 4 : Calls for 6.00
Seat 5 : Folds
Seat 1 : Raises for 7.50
Seat 2 : Folds
TheFish : Calls for 3.00
Seat 4 : Calls for 3.00
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Flop - [ J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] <-- not a good flop, not a bad flop - could attract a few chasers
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Seat 1 : Bets 3.00
TheFish : Raises for 6.00
Seat 4 : Calls for 6.00
Seat 1 : Calls for 3.00
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Turn [ J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 1 : Checks
TheFish : Bets 6.00
Seat 4 : Calls for 6.00
Seat 1 : Folds
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River [ J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
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TheFish : Bets 6.00 <-- I knew it!
Seat 4 : Raises for 12.00 <-- I knew it!
TheFish : Calls for 6.00

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Showdown
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TheFish [ KS, KH, KC, AD, JD - Three of a Kind ]
Seat 4 [ AD, KD, JD, 6D, 4D - Flush ]

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Result
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TheFish Mucked Cards
Seat 4 Showed Cards (Winning) 82.00
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Players Cards
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TheFish [ KH, KC ]
Seat 4[ KD, 4D ]



[/ QUOTE ]Date: 5/17/2005 3:33:03 AM
Game: 352235306: Table: One Reason
Normal Table Fixed Limit 3.00/6.00
Seat: 1
Seat: 2 TheFish [ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Seat: 3
Seat: 4 (Dealer)
Seat: 5
Seat: 6

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OpeningBetRound
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Seat 5 : Posts small blind 1.50
seat 6 : Posts big blind 3.00
Seat 1 : Waiting for big blind
TheFish : Raises for 6.00
Seat 3 : Raises for 9.00
Seat 4 : Folds
Seat 5 : Calls for 7.50
seat 6 : Folds
TheFish : Raises for 6.00
Seat 3 : Calls for 3.00
Seat 5 : Calls for 3.00
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Flop [ J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 5 : Checks
TheFish : Bets 3.00
Seat 3 : Calls for 3.00
Seat 5 : Folds
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Turn [ J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
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TheFish : Bets 6.00
Seat 3 : Calls for 6.00
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River [ J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
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TheFish : Bets 6.00
Seat 3 : Raises for 12.00
TheFish : Calls for 6.00 <-- And again!
Seat 3 : Shows cards
TheFish : Mucks cards

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Showdown
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TheFish [ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - One Pair
Seat 3 [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - Flush ]

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Players Cards
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TheFish [ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Seat 3 [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] (Winning) 79.00

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Old 05-19-2005, 10:39 AM
Subby Subby is offline
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Default Re: WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
You deserved to win those.
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
This is a hand that I have right being and needs to be criqued.

Fixed Limit 3.00/6.00
Rake: 2.50
Seat: 1 [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 2
Seat: 3 TheFish [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 4
Seat: 5 (Dealer)
Seat: 6

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OpeningBetRound
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Seat 6 : Posts small blind 1.50
Seat 1 : Posts big blind 3.00
Seat 2 : Calls for 3.00
TheFish : Calls for 3.00 <- this is a mistake (either fold or raise?)
Seat 4 : Folds
Seat 5 : Folds
Seat 6 : Folds
Seat 1 : Checks
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Flop [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 1 : Checks
Seat 2 : Bets 3.00
TheFish : Calls for 3.00 <-- Top Pair ... calling here?
Seat 1 : Calls for 3.00
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Turn [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] <-- he hits, this could have been worse

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Seat 1 : Checks
Seat 2 : Checks
TheFish : Bets 6.00
Seat 1 : Calls for 6.00 <- the classic set up!
Seat 2 : Folds
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River [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 1 : Bets 6.00 <- why did that Queen hit? I am going to check-call otherwise.
TheFish : Raises for 12.00
Seat 1 : Calls for 6.00
TheFish : Shows cards
Seat 1 : Shows cards

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Showdown
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Seat 1 [ 9S, 8C, 7D, 6H, 5H - Straight ]
TheFish [ QC, QD, JC, JH, 7D - Two Pair ]

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Result
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Seat 2 Mucked Cards
TheFish Showed Cards
Seat 4 Mucked Cards
Seat 5 Mucked Cards


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Players Cards
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Seat 1 [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] (Winning) 53.00
TheFish[ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

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Old 05-19-2005, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
First off,
You are crazy for complaining about these hands.

On this hand if the table seems to be playing similar to the other hands I woud raise QJ all the time. Also Raise TPGK on flop. You should have lost at least one if not two more BB. Thank him.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:37 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
This is a hand that I have right being and needs to be criqued.

Fixed Limit 3.00/6.00
Rake: 2.50 <font color="red">Yay! sorry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] </font>
Seat: 1 [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 2
Seat: 3 TheFish [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 4
Seat: 5 (Dealer)
Seat: 6

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OpeningBetRound
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Seat 6 : Posts small blind 1.50
Seat 1 : Posts big blind 3.00
Seat 2 : Calls for 3.00
TheFish : Calls for 3.00 &lt;- this is a mistake (either fold or raise?) <font color="red"> I would fold here in most situations,4 players left to act. </font>
Seat 4 : Folds
Seat 5 : Folds
Seat 6 : Folds
Seat 1 : Checks
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Flop [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 1 : Checks
Seat 2 : Bets 3.00
TheFish : Calls for 3.00 &lt;-- Top Pair ... calling here? <font color="red">I would raise, get a feel for what the other two got, and protect your hand. </font>
Seat 1 : Calls for 3.00
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Turn [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] &lt;-- he hits, this could have been worse

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Seat 1 : Checks
Seat 2 : Checks
TheFish : Bets 6.00 <font color="red"> ok </font>
Seat 1 : Calls for 6.00 &lt;- the classic set up!
Seat 2 : Folds
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River [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
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Seat 1 : Bets 6.00 &lt;- why did that Queen hit? I am going to check-call otherwise.
TheFish : Raises for 12.00 <font color="red">ok </font>
Seat 1 : Calls for 6.00 <font color="red"> he stopped betting with the nuts! stay at table! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] </font>
TheFish : Shows cards
Seat 1 : Shows cards

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Showdown
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Seat 1 [ 9S, 8C, 7D, 6H, 5H - Straight ]
TheFish [ QC, QD, JC, JH, 7D - Two Pair ]

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Result
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Seat 2 Mucked Cards
TheFish Showed Cards
Seat 4 Mucked Cards
Seat 5 Mucked Cards


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Players Cards
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Seat 1 [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] (Winning) 53.00
TheFish[ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

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Old 05-19-2005, 11:56 AM
AAmaz0n AAmaz0n is offline
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Default Re: WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
I feel for you sweetie.

the last few days it appears that the "give Shauna's opponents every card they need" switch has been turned on as well. A few more days of this and I'm going to join the tin foil hat folks.

Shauna
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:59 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
First off,
You are crazy for complaining about these hands.

On this hand if the table seems to be playing similar to the other hands I woud raise QJ all the time. Also Raise TPGK on flop. You should have lost at least one if not two more BB. Thank him.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks ... to clarify - I am just letting offf steam. I realize that Bad beats are part of the game. An Ironically, as i scroll through my hands, the Bad Beats are my own fault (ok, not the AA &amp; KK above).

I am going to post a few hands that I really misplayed (like QJo). Because i need to see hear a few things to get my mind straight.
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:16 PM
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Game: 354533628: Table: Strangers Eyes
Seat: 1
Seat: 3
Seat: 4 TheFish [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] (Dealer)
Seat 6[ A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]

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OpeningBetRound
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TheFish: Posts small blind 1.50
Seat 6 : Posts big blind 3.00
Seat 1 : Raises for 6.00
Seat 3 : Folds
Seat 3 : Folds
TheFish: Calls for 4.50 &lt; -- raise here?
Seat 6 : Calls for 3.00
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Flop [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] &lt;- this is what confuses me (2 clubs and opened ended, but a pair on the board or an 8 is fireworks)
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TheFish: Bets 3.00
Seat 6 : Calls for 3.00
Seat 1 : Raises for 6.00
TheFish: Calls for 3.00
Seat 6 : Calls for 3.00
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Turn[ 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] &lt;- does it get much worse.
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TheFish: Checks
Seat 6 : Checks
Seat 1 : Bets 6.00
TheFish: Calls for 6.00 &lt;- yep, I am in check-call mode
Seat 6 : Calls for 6.00

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River[ 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
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TheFish: Checks
Seat 6 : Bets 6.00
Seat 1 : Folds
TheFish: Calls for 6.00
Seat 6 : Shows cards
TheFish: Mucks cards

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Showdown
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TheFish [ 8H, 8S, 8D, JH, 9C - Three of a Kind ]
Seat 6 [ JH, 10D, 9C, 8H, 7C - Straight ]

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Result
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TheFish Mucked Cards
Seat 6 Showed Cards (Winning) 64.00

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This is what I mean by tight weak.

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Old 05-19-2005, 12:26 PM
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This one – the more I go over it, the more I have no idea what I should have done.

Seat: 1 [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] (Dealer)
Seat: 2 [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Seat: 3 Seat 3
Seat: 4 Seat 4
Seat: 5 Seat 5
Seat: 6 [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

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OpeningBetRound
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Seat 2 : Posts small blind 2.50
Seat 3 : Posts big blind 5.00
Seat 4 : Waiting for big blind
Seat 5 : Folds
SEAT 6 : Calls for 5.00
TheFish: Calls for 5.00 &lt;- I just do not see myself raising here with so many palyers in the pot.
Seat 2 : Calls for 2.50
Seat 3 : Checks
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Flop [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
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Seat 2 : Checks
Seat 3 : Checks
SEAT 6 : Checks
TheFish: Checks
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Turn [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] &lt;- Worst card that could of hit
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Seat 2 : Bets 10.00
Seat 3 : Calls for 10.00
SEAT 6 : Raises for 20.00
TheFish : Raises for 30.00
Seat 2 : Raises for 30.00
Seat 3 : Folds
SEAT 6 : Calls for 20.00
TheFish : Calls for 10.00
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River [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
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Seat 2 : Bets 10.00
SEAT 6 : Calls for 10.00
TheFish : Calls for 10.00
Seat 2 : Shows cards
SEAT 6 : Mucks cards
TheFish : Mucks cards

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Showdown
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TheFish [ 8D, 7D, 6C, 5C, 4D - Straight ]
Seat 2 [ 9H, 8S, 7D, 6C, 5C - Straight ]
SEAT 6 [ 8H, 7D, 6C, 5C, 4D - Straight ]

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Result
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Seat 2 Showed Cards (Winning) 178.00
Seat 3 Mucked Cards
Seat 4 No Cards
Seat 5 Mucked Cards
SEAT 6 Mucked Cards
TheFish Mucked Cards



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Old 05-19-2005, 12:34 PM
archmagi archmagi is offline
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Default Re: WSOP 120K Challenge - Bad beat vent
exactly what i have been going thru at stars for the last few days.
i decided to take a break for a day so that i can get over it.
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