Bubble Play

NYCNative · #1 05-27-2005, 06:33 AM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

BB (t2145)
Hero (t3195)
MP (t1730)
Button (t2095)
SB (t5835)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t700, MP raises to t1730 all-in, 3 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1700

NYCNative · #2 05-27-2005, 06:45 AM

I should add: It was a 10+1, I viewed the player as tight-passive earlier but didn't know if he changed gears for the bubble. Also, he paused a long time before making the push.

My guess is he had a small to medium pair. If that read was correct, should I have called? Absent of a read is it a good fold? Finally, was it a good "steal" attempt or is that hand not quite good enough for an UTG steal?

BDarch · #3 05-27-2005, 06:50 AM

if he had a small to medium pair you defiantely should have called. You should have pushed preflop to begin with instead.

Newt_Buggs · #4 05-27-2005, 08:28 AM

don't raise 3.5 BB-make it around 2.5

pooh74 · #5 05-27-2005, 11:16 AM

2.7-1 odds on your call...I cant imagine a range that doesnt make this a call.

When you raise this much from that position, do you preplan to fold to all-ins? Bc you should reconsider raising in that case if you're playing with decent players.

45suited · #6 05-27-2005, 11:41 AM

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if he had a small to medium pair you defiantely should have called. You should have pushed preflop to begin with instead.

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Push pre-flop with 16X the BB? I would never do this in a million years. The risk / reward ratio is way out of whack to do this. Blinds aren't high enough and you're not desperate. If there is an AK behind you, you're in a world of hurt when you didn't need to be.

rickr · #7 05-27-2005, 12:56 PM

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if he had a small to medium pair you defiantely should have called. You should have pushed preflop to begin with instead.

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Push pre-flop with 16X the BB? I would never do this in a million years. The risk / reward ratio is way out of whack to do this. Blinds aren't high enough and you're not desperate. If there is an AK behind you, you're in a world of hurt when you didn't need to be.

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Then fold. You are raising too much out of position. If you can't push, fold. Or god forbid, miniraise.

PattyMcFatty · #8 05-27-2005, 01:01 PM

Pushing is horrendous. Id make it 2.5 BB to leave yourself a chance to fold. You dont want to have to call this all in. But now, you do. At most tables, 2.5 is enough to weed out any potential marginals calling you. You should consider this sort of thing when you raise, because if homeboy has QQ or AK (dominating you) your gonna be down to like 1.7k in chips.

Bluff Daddy · #9 05-27-2005, 01:11 PM

Pay attention to the table. Know what range of raises they will most likely call and fold to.

NYCNative · #10 05-27-2005, 01:17 PM

At the lower levels of the $11 at UB, I have to raise 4BB to get people to respect it. I have traditionally made $700 my standard raise at this level though I shall experiment by going $500 instead.

As for the mess I got myself into:

Am I really comitted to calling another $1000+ by betting the $700? Doesn't that just compound the mistake? I could see an insta-call for only a few hundred bucks more but this was a considerable amount - of a raise and of my stack.