Cowboys Out Of Position, Scary Board

NYCNative · #1 09-09-2005, 02:25 AM

How'd I do?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 ($69.40)
MP1 ($121.05)
MP2 ($48.50)
MP3 ($139.90)
CO ($91.05)
Button ($52.15)
SB ($99)
Hero ($166.95)
UTG ($131.45)
UTG+1 ($56.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3.5, 6 folds, Button calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $13, UTG calls $9.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($30) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, UTG raises to $45, Hero calls $25.

River: ($120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks (prepared to call anything reasonable), UTG checks.

Final Pot: $120

Simplistic · #2 09-09-2005, 02:31 AM

i don't mind a continuation bet here as you're representing AA, AK, or KK.

i might even bet the river but it's likely a way ahead way behind.

I like your line fine.

boondockst · #3 09-09-2005, 03:28 AM

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i might even bet the river but it's likely a way ahead way behind.

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Think about why this is stupid.

NYCNative · #4 09-09-2005, 02:34 AM

Read on villain: Aggressive but not crazy. He is raising PF 12.2% of the time but his VP$IP is only 26. However he is not only raising premium hands as he raised with 98s from 4 behind the button earlier. I think he's someone who tries to be tricky sometimes and he seems to be aware of position.

Simplistic · #5 09-09-2005, 02:41 AM

wait for a few more replies, but I think you won this hand.

Dommer · #6 09-09-2005, 02:53 AM

Interesting hand...

I don't see him checking the flop with a set or AK if hes aggressive, and I don't see him checking behind with those hands or a flush on the river.

I'm guessing he thought you were weak and was hoping he could make you fold by representing an A or a flush, in which case you played good. But that's a very strange bluff by him...

You are out of position which makes a continuation bet very awkward if you get called, so I think checking the flop is fine.

You can't really value bet the river, you'd have to call the push.

Tough hand, I really don't see how else to play it. It seems like every line has it's drawbacks. Your hands are tied by the stack sizes and the flush on the board; value betting isn't comfortable, getting all-in isn't comfortable, and neither is folding.

MTBlue · #7 09-09-2005, 02:57 AM

Five bucks says villain was looking for a cheap showdown with AJ AQ probably with a spade. I lead this river for 1/2 pot every time and call most reasonable raises without a rediculous read.

Dommer · #8 09-09-2005, 03:35 AM

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Five bucks says villain was looking for a cheap showdown with AJ AQ probably with a spade. I lead this river for 1/2 pot every time and call most reasonable raises without a rediculous read.

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Ahh I didn't think of that... that makes sense. I wish he'd post the results already.

NYCNative · #9 09-09-2005, 03:58 AM

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Ahh I didn't think of that... that makes sense. I wish he'd post the results already.

[/ QUOTE ]Villain had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I wonder why it seems obvious to some that he would hold this or something similar since I couldn't imagine anyone calling my large PF reraise and then NOT betting that flop when it was checked to them with that holding.

To me, the only valid reasons to chech after me on the flop is they were on the flush draw and happy to get the free card or they had a smaller PP (something like like Jacks) and the Ace scared him just as much.

When he raised me on my flop bet, I knew that smaller pockets was less likely.

Really, who doesn't bet that flop holding an Ace?

Bukem_ · #10 09-09-2005, 03:08 AM

I'd get it all in on the turn. He doesn't have a flush.