10/20 6max: slowing down - AQo

Surfbullet · #1 07-27-2005, 12:08 AM

Villain is 20/14/1.8 over 80 hands but felt laggy from seeing his showdowns.

SB is a mega loose-passive, the reason I'm at the table.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds. Hero raises, Button 3bets, SB calls, BB folds, Hero 4bets, all call.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, hero bets, Button raises, sb folds, hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, btn bets, hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, btn bets, hero calls.

Not sure when/where i'd want to put more bets in here...or whether i'd want to at all? This should be easy by now.

Surf

MAxx · #2 07-27-2005, 12:15 AM

I'd probably bet/call the river here.

Surfbullet · #3 07-27-2005, 12:18 AM

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I'd probably bet/call the river here.

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Bet-calling doesn't make too much sense to me here...he wont check behind with a weak ace (a little too aggro) and it lets him get away from bluffing hands that might fire again, while letting us pay off big 2 pair or better hands?

Surf

Digs · #4 07-27-2005, 12:21 AM

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I'd probably bet/call the river here.

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Given the read, I typically take this line.

I don't think your line is bad at all however. Especially if you don't think he's capable of flop spewing a draw. And considering we're typically beat when we get raised on the river by this guy.

Edit:
ahhhh shiz, I thought SB was the villian here, lol, yea I'm thinking c/c is better for the 1.8 ar guy heh [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm not sure what's the better line if villian is our LP guy though, as they tend to call out of frustration of missed draws and the like where they wouldnt bet them~

Surfbullet · #5 07-27-2005, 03:53 AM

Villain showed down ATo and MHIG. I really put that at the unlikely end of his hand range when he raises the flop after the PF action. He's too loose and aggressive postflop, and I made a note of that after the hand. Just curious if anyone played this any harder postflop as a default.

Surf

FlyingStart · #6 07-27-2005, 05:20 AM

I think I would play this the same as the villain, with perhaps the exception of the river bet, but I think I would do that also. After the preflop and flop action, I would put you on QQ or KK (maybe AQ, I would expect 3 bets with AK, or atleast lead the turn/checkraise the turn), and just continue betting unless you showed aggression.

Is this too aggressive?

Fabian · #7 07-27-2005, 05:27 AM

I think he'll show you AK or AJ a lot more often than AT so this is fine I think.

Surfbullet · #8 07-27-2005, 10:48 AM

The flop c/r is what really surprised me...my preflop 4bet will often mean TT-AA, AK, AQ. He's in trouble vs most of those hands, except TT,QQ,KK. After i've called the c/r he's going to think i'm on KK-QQ, but it's a WA/WB situation and a c/r on the flop here is a mistake IMO with AT.

Surf

etizzle · #9 07-27-2005, 10:52 AM

I like 3 betting the flop here. If he raises one of the big streets you cna probably fold it, and if he caps it call him down. There is little chance he is bluffing here, so you may want to try bet-calling the river as someone else suggested.

You need to make sure 3 BB go in here though, at a minimum.

FlyingStart · #10 07-27-2005, 10:57 AM

Flop checkraise? He raises from the button, or am I misunderstanding something here?