Tough Spot With Kings.

-Skeme- · #1 05-10-2005, 01:56 AM

UTG is loose, fishy idiot. Frequently limp-calls with garbage. Weak player. MP2 I don't have a read on.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed)

SB ($161.05)
BB ($40.70)
UTG ($30)
Hero ($100)
MP1 ($93.50)
MP2 ($67.65)
CO ($57.75)
Button ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, MP2 calls $5, CO calls $5, 3

folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($21.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $18, MP2 calls $18, CO folds, UTG raises to $25, Hero calls $7, MP2 calls $7.

Turn: ($96.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero ??
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What's my move? I'm certain I'm behind UTG donk, but he could have anything from Q8 to AQ. MP2 has 37.65 left. Comments on all streets appreciated.

WSOPwinner10 · #2 05-10-2005, 02:02 AM

MP either has a draw or a weak Queen.
if you push here and MP calls, he's getting very marginal odds, if any, and it is a +EV play.

TheWorstPlayer · #3 05-10-2005, 02:56 AM

Can't fold, so you have to push.

FreakDaddy · #4 05-10-2005, 03:05 AM

What makes you so certain? Is it out of the question that he has top pair with a decent kicker and is trying to move you off the pot? I definetly lead the turn for 1/3 of the pot. If I'm raised there then I 'may' let it go. Without position, it's a tough play.

xorbie · #5 05-10-2005, 03:32 AM

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What makes you so certain? Is it out of the question that he has top pair with a decent kicker and is trying to move you off the pot? I definetly lead the turn for 1/3 of the pot. If I'm raised there then I 'may' let it go. Without position, it's a tough play.

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1/3 pot puts MP all in, which is also what I would do. You're clearly comitted, and this at least allows you to recoup a bit in case MP has JK or something stupid (hope he doesn't have 9J). He could easily have KQ/AQ here though, and he isn't getting away from it.

FreakDaddy · #6 05-10-2005, 03:48 AM

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What makes you so certain? Is it out of the question that he has top pair with a decent kicker and is trying to move you off the pot? I definetly lead the turn for 1/3 of the pot. If I'm raised there then I 'may' let it go. Without position, it's a tough play.

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1/3 pot puts MP all in, which is also what I would do. You're clearly comitted, and this at least allows you to recoup a bit in case MP has JK or something stupid (hope he doesn't have 9J). He could easily have KQ/AQ here though, and he isn't getting away from it.

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Good catch X. Then my 1/3 bet suggestion is even better than I originally thought. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-Skeme- · #7 05-10-2005, 04:59 AM

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What makes you so certain? Is it out of the question that he has top pair with a decent kicker and is trying to move you off the pot? I definetly lead the turn for 1/3 of the pot. If I'm raised there then I 'may' let it go. Without position, it's a tough play.

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1/3rd the pot is his whole stack. I jammed as I didn't really think there was any other way to play it. Just getting confirmation on the hand as I am running very bad. Just needed a checkup.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($161.05)
BB ($40.70)
UTG ($30)
Hero ($100)
MP1 ($93.50)
MP2 ($67.65)
CO ($57.75)
Button ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, MP2 calls $5, CO calls $5, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($21.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $18, MP2 calls $18, CO folds, UTG raises to $25, Hero calls $7, MP2 calls $7.

Turn: ($96.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $70 (All-In), MP2 calls $37.65 (All-In).

River: ($204.15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $204.15

Results in white below: 
UTG has Tc Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
Hero has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
MP2 has Td Ts (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: MP2 wins $171.80. Hero wins $32.35. 
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