Shady potential fraud and thievery (long) - Page 3

jman220 · #21 10-26-2005, 11:37 PM

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1) Agreed

2) What if Sean dumped Dave's online chips (using Dave's account) to a 3rd party as another poster suggested, using a library computer??

3) I am not Sean, merely a friend of his (not a great one at that). This post is purely for pentantic puposes.

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2. You think this makes him uncatchable? Ok, so lets say Sean uses Dave's account to dump it to Scott. Scott takes a cut and gives the money to Sean. Dave sees that someone useed his account to withdraw money and play with it. He contacts the poker site. They see that the money was dumped mostly to one other player. Do you think that a huge sight like party poker doesn't know how to recognize chip dumping? So now Scott is implicated, and so is Sean, and on top of the underlying crime you can now add conspiracy. Look, there's certainly a chance that he can get away with it. Maybe even a good one depending on how much law enforcement will care. But your friend needs to figure out whether $700 is worth the chance of going to jail. This is definitely a crime.

#22 10-26-2005, 11:44 PM

Good post. Exactly what I was looking for.

Bradyams · #23 10-26-2005, 11:47 PM

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2) What if Sean dumped Dave's online chips (using Dave's account) to a 3rd party as another poster suggested, using a library computer??

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You and your friends don't have much common sense.

dogmeat · #24 10-27-2005, 12:20 AM

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1) Agreed

2) What if Sean dumped Dave's online chips (using Dave's account) to a 3rd party as another poster suggested, using a library computer??

3) I am not Sean, merely a friend of his (not a great one at that). This post is purely for pentantic puposes.

To my knowledge no such form was signed.

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I am not Dogmeat, really, so don't be offended. I am just using his account to tell you that when you turn thirteen, you will probably have enough sense to:

1) Realize how stupid you have been
2) Quit when you are behind
3) Understand that money in the pot is no longer yours
4) Get on with your life
5) Not post sht like this here - especially crossposted!@

Signed,

really, I'm not Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Freudian · #25 10-27-2005, 12:33 AM

I don't know what the current rate for common sense lessons is these days. But $700 for letting someone else use your poker account to allow that someone else try to pay back a $100 debt isn't all that steep.

TheHammer24 · #26 10-27-2005, 12:47 AM

This is not TheHammer24, just a friend of his. I want to share his opinion with you on the matter. FWIW, there is a very high liklihood that this will work. This however does not make it a good idea. There is absolutely no way I risk the legal costs and the possible jail time, the head ache of always wondering if the Police are going to catch me is enough to not make me wnat to do it. But here's why it would most likely work:

1. Dave, realizing he owed him 700 dollars, may be a lot less likely to call the bank, call the police, etc. He got pwned, will realize this, and be done.

2. Law Enforcement Won't Care! 700 dollars! There are far more important money laundering cases out there. For them to invest resources into the investigation, court fees, public defender, etc. it would be easier to pay Dave the 700 dollars he lost.

3. Party Poker Barrier. Party Poker is not going to be super cooperative, and even if they were willing to help in an investigation, the police would be reluctant to go to them as they are over seas etc.

But that being said, don't do it. It's just stupid. Kick his ass and tell him to pay you. Morally, this is 100% justified, but in no way worth the headache.

#27 10-27-2005, 12:47 AM

Why is it so hard to believe this is not me? Its not. End of story.

#28 10-27-2005, 12:51 AM

Good post, thanks for a legit response (minus the annoying, and erroneous, mockery)

spicychili · #29 10-27-2005, 01:26 AM

Why doesnt Sean just kick Dave in the nuts?

USCSigma1097 · #30 10-27-2005, 01:55 AM

Man,

That is one of the dumbest ideas i've ever heard. First of all, you will be prosecuted.

Second of all, here in South Carolina, you most certainly would have your ass beat. Repeatedly.

What kind of a woman are you that you can't go get the money? If the guys owes you money you say "Hey bro, I want one hundred bucks a week for the next two months" If he doesn't pay, you steal some of his stuff and sell it.

You certainly don't defraud a bank. They will most certainly stick it in you and break it off.

Sigma