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07-09-2004, 07:47 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
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How so? Say you raise preflop, he autocalls, now we have the same flop. Whats your play? [/ QUOTE ] You bet. If he missed, he'll fold. Otherwise, he'll let you know. 
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#5
07-09-2004, 07:50 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
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[ QUOTE ] How so? Say you raise preflop, he autocalls, now we have the same flop. Whats your play? [/ QUOTE ] You bet. If he missed, he'll fold. Otherwise, he'll let you know. [/ QUOTE ] Only if he's weak tight. Weak loose and he'll call with a wide range of hands on the flop.
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#6
07-09-2004, 07:52 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
raise preflop and bet any flop or check preflop and check any flop, with an eye to folding almost all flops. i think those are the best ways to play this.
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#7
07-09-2004, 09:13 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How so? Say you raise preflop, he autocalls, now we have the same flop. Whats your play? [/ QUOTE ] You bet. If he missed, he'll fold. Otherwise, he'll let you know. [/ QUOTE ] Only if he's weak tight. Weak loose and he'll call with a wide range of hands on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe I'm misinterpreting what the original poster meant by "weak" but I usually call someone weak if he's prone to fold too much. The person you're describing I would call "loose passive".
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#8
07-09-2004, 09:21 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
This clearly depends on your recent history at the table and with this guy. You've been the pounder: he folds A4, 76, maybe even 98. You've been the poundee: he at least calls and often raises with the same two tickets.
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#9
07-09-2004, 11:19 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
Sorry for confusion. By weak I meant bad not excessively tight. The opponent in question is likely calling this flop with Ax no draw against the line you described. Now whats your play?
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#10
07-09-2004, 11:34 PM
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Re: 55 flop decision with very little to go on.
This is not a good flop for you against a hand that a weak limper will hold. There's a decent chance he's made a pair, or at least a draw that will give him maybe 10 outs (say two overcards to your 5's plus a gutshot). I'd be more inclined to bet out then to attempt a check-raise, in part because I'd rather not get him psychologically and financially invested in the hand, and in part because I'm prepared to fold against any aggressive action on this player's part and I'm losing less money that way. But the pot is tiny and I think the best course of action is probably check-fold, especially against the sort of opponent (like most players who limp frequently) who is going to be inclined to make this a five-card hand.
As far as raising before the flop ... I think it's fine if your table image is good and your opponent is capable of folding (again, that's not the case with most players who limp frequently in EP), but I don't know that it should be routine ... I don't terribly mind check-raising a lot of flops with a small pair, especially if I have a pretty good idea of the limper's likely range of hands ... I just don't think that this is a very good flop for you. [ QUOTE ] UB 10/20 8 handed Weak EP limper, folded to me in the BB with 55, I check. Flop: 10h 9h 2x Your play. [/ QUOTE ]
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