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#1
08-30-2004, 12:29 PM
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TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the turn.
Local B&M 2/4 Beginner's game. What this means is that there is NO check-raising allowed.
I'm in late position with 3 limpers and raise with AKo. 1 other caller, but blinds fold and the limpers call 1 more. Flop: K87, 8 and 7 are [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Checked to me, and I bet. UTG is the only one who calls. Turn: 6 not a spade. Now the UTG player bets into me. Now what? He's fairly passive, so this probably means he has a real hand. There is no check-raising allowed, so he needs to bet in order to get more money from me in case I check it through. Does anyone fold here? The 6 completed several straights in which case I'm drawing dead and might complete 2 pair. A passive player wouldn't be betting unless he had me beat. Folding here seems INCREDIBLY weak to me. On the other hand, he MAY be bluffing, though I doubt it. Results, (though they don't really matter): <font color="white"> I decided to call the turn. He led out on the river and I called that as well. He had K6 for turned 2 pair. </font> 
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#2
08-30-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the turn.
I call the turn in this situation most of the time.I may not call the river bet if the board doesn't pair or I don't improve. Passive players are great to play with because you can save many bets by folding. Did you have the Ks in your hand?
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#3
08-30-2004, 12:56 PM
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Re: TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the turn.
I believe I had the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in my hand, but not the K.
[ QUOTE ] I call the turn in this situation most of the time.I may not call the river bet if the board doesn't pair or I don't improve. Passive players are great to play with because you can save many bets by folding. Did you have the Ks in your hand? [/ QUOTE ]
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#4
08-30-2004, 03:26 PM
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Re: TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the tur
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Local B&M 2/4 Beginner's game. What this means is that there is NO check-raising allowed. [/ QUOTE ] This is a disservice to the beginners.
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#5
08-31-2004, 01:29 AM
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Re: TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the turn.
If you had the K, it would have reduced the chance of him raising with something like Ks-Js. Becomes easier to lay down. The live game I play in is incredibly passive, so I'm used to laying this down.
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#6
08-31-2004, 04:20 AM
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Re: TPTK on a coordinated board and UTG leading out into me on the turn.
If you are behind, the pot is so small that you should fold. You have at best 5 outs. It is hard to put a beginner on a hand. If the 6 improved his hand, the only hand you'll beat is a pair of sixes. I'm guessing he has sevens over sixes. He might have a set of sixes and should have folded on the flop but didn't.
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