3 more reasons why the turn screwplay rules... - Page 3

joker122 · #21 09-14-2005, 04:59 AM

if play like this are the norm at 10/20 i quit.

tizim · #22 09-14-2005, 05:29 AM

If people are more likely to make retarded 3-bets, doesn't this worsen your case for screwplaying with Ax unimproved? Unless you only do it with a strong read, that is.

girgy44 · #23 09-14-2005, 09:43 AM

Damn u play goot, reading this [censored] is making me miss internet so bad. 20/40 is a [censored] goldmine. And thanks for swaring last night when I drunk dialed international biitch.

Grisgra · #24 09-14-2005, 09:55 AM

Ain't 20/40 fun?

BottlesOf · #25 09-14-2005, 10:17 AM

For how long has this been called the turn screwplay?

#26 09-14-2005, 10:19 AM

I'd check the river too. With the possibility of a straight, I'm not sure I'm 50% confident (or does TOP say 55%?) of having the winning hand. With villain reraising the turn, I would think a straight is a likely scenario.

colgin · #27 09-14-2005, 11:54 AM

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For how long has this been called the turn screwplay?

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Probably somehwat longer than this somewhere, but in all practicality just since yesterday when J V used it in a MId-High post (don't feel bad; Schneids needed to ask what it meant).

colgin · #28 09-14-2005, 11:58 AM

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So screwplay is the sexy for the turn instead of river?

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I am not sure about that in part because I am not 100% clear on "the sexy". Is "the sexy" any river check-raise. If so, then they are not the same, duifferent streets notwithstanding.

The screwplay needs to be an off tempo turn check-raise. In all 3 of NLSoldier's hands, he was in the lead and then checked the turn. If he had been raised on the flop and called and then check-raised the turn, then I believe that would be . . . well, just a check-raise and definitely not a screwplay.

NLSoldier · #29 09-14-2005, 02:45 PM

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If people are more likely to make retarded 3-bets, doesn't this worsen your case for screwplaying with Ax unimproved? Unless you only do it with a strong read, that is.

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this is a good point. i guess the difference between these 3 and some of the others I posted in the past, was that with earlier ones, the oppoenents were the type that after my turn CR I knew I wasnt putting another bet in the point w/o improvment. And against these 3 opponents, I knew I wasnt folding no matter what happened. Basically, I decide before I CR, what Im gonna do if he 3 bets. And if its against a guy that I wouldnt be very sure of what to do, then I wouldnt CR in the first place.