Roy Cooke article in Card Player is wrong.

[Posty123]

His main point being that internet hold 'em ring games require a 50% larger bankroll than live play.

No tipping and no jackpot drop unless desired should not increase but decrease bankroll requirements.

I've played probably 500,000 hands of online poker from $1-$2 to $5-$10 and have not deviated down more than 150 BB at any point.

I believe that bank roll requirement are much less for online winning players.

He usually has such good advice. I was surprised to see such an inaccurate assesment.

Comments?

[Seether]

It has nothing to do with the rake and tipping and everything to do with the difference in aggression and quality of play at the differing levels.

[Posty123]

Tipping and jack pot drop have to increase variance. That's just a fact.

Especially at the $1-$2 to $5-10 level.

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Tipping and jack pot drop have to increase variance. That's just a fact.


[/ QUOTE ] Bankroll amount for a given risk is a function of advantage, dispersion and bet amount. So if your advantage is sufficiently less online for any level (and that seems to be general agreement) then original statement makes perfect sense.

[DarkKnight]

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Tipping and jack pot drop have to increase variance. That's just a fact.

Especially at the $1-$2 to $5-10 level.

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Actually they decrease winrate (if you include the toke - and the extra drop) varience shouldn't change much if at all

[Theodore Donald Kiravatsos]

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Tipping and jack pot drop have to increase variance. That's just a fact.

Especially at the $1-$2 to $5-10 level.

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This is the first time ever for me to say the magic words...

As rake increases from the normal, to the high, to the unfair, to the unrealistic, to the insanely high (picture a 1-2 game with a million dollar rake no matter the pot size, and a "no flop-no drop" rule in effect), increasing the rake will DECREASE your variance.

"Do you see why?"

[punter11235]

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Tipping and jack pot drop have to increase variance. That's just a fact.


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LOL. Not if youre giving the tips of the same size in the same situations but if you get fancy and for example give no tips sometimes but tipping huge other days and do it at random then yes, variance will increase

[augie00]

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I've played probably 500,000 hands of online poker from $1-$2 to $5-$10 and have not deviated down more than 150 BB at any point.

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damn. you must be the best poker player on earth. geez. i would like to stake you for 20/40. i'll have to sell my car but it will be worth it.

seriously, man. i know some damn talented LHE players and they have ALL swung down 500 bets or more at one point in time. 500k hands? are you sure?

[Posty123]

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I've played probably 500,000 hands of online poker from $1-$2 to $5-$10 and have not deviated down more than 150 BB at any point.

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damn. you must be the best poker player on earth. geez. i would like to stake you for 20/40. i'll have to sell my car but it will be worth it.

seriously, man. i know some damn talented LHE players and they have ALL swung down 500 bets or more at one point in time. 500k hands? are you sure?

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12% VPIP 30% WTSD 3 AF

[SoCalRugger]

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I've played probably 500,000 hands of online poker from $1-$2 to $5-$10 and have not deviated down more than 150 BB at any point.

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damn. you must be the best poker player on earth. geez. i would like to stake you for 20/40. i'll have to sell my car but it will be worth it.

seriously, man. i know some damn talented LHE players and they have ALL swung down 500 bets or more at one point in time. 500k hands? are you sure?

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12% VPIP 30% WTSD 3 AF

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See that augie? He really is the best poker player on earth. Man, did he show you...