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View Poll Results: You are in MP2 with KJs, UTG+1 limps, folds round to you who.. | |||
raise | 13 | 13.54% | |
limp | 61 | 63.54% | |
fold | 22 | 22.92% | |
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll |
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Specific preflop plays
I see a lot of incongruity among posts and posters on how these are played.
Assume that one of the limpers is a loose but somewhat decent player who plays well postflop. Any other limpers are loose passive and bad. Also assume blinds are loose and that BB will call a raise approx. 75% of the time to see a flop. |
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Re: Specific preflop plays
OK, who is folding ATo on the button with three limpers? 'Splain yourself.
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Re: Specific preflop plays
I really hate KTo. Can somebody convince me to play this?
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#4
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Re: Specific preflop plays
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I really hate KTo. Can somebody convince me to play this? [/ QUOTE ] Loose passive limpers usually have worse hands than us. We have a good shot at making top pair. Don't play it if your not comfortable with the post-flop play, and dealing with possible domination. |
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Don\'t hate-evaluate
Generic hatred of KTo? You made no mention of your position or who you are playing against. I find KTo to be very playable against typical LAP tables, particularly from later positions. Since I play live, I do not have poker stats to back my feel, but I would play it all night to see the flop. OF course, after the flop, there could be lots of reasons to fold, but I think seeing the flop with those cards will be EV+ against all but Rock or TAG dominated tables.
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Re: Specific preflop plays
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I really hate KTo. Can somebody convince me to play this? [/ QUOTE ] Sure, if you enjoy the aggravation of burning up chips when you hit against the passive limper who doesn't raise with A 10, KJ and KQ. Miniscule ev at best- not worth getting into trouble over IMO. |
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Re: Don\'t hate-evaluate
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You made no mention of your position or who you are playing against. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Assume that one of the limpers is a loose but somewhat decent player who plays well postflop. Any other limpers are loose passive and bad. Also assume blinds are loose and that BB will call a raise approx. 75% of the time to see a flop. ... KTo in MP3 after 2 limpers. KTo in MP3 after 3 limpers. [/ QUOTE ] It was actually the mention of the one solid postflop player that changed my call to a fold. |
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Re: Specific preflop plays
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Miniscule ev at best- not worth getting into trouble over IMO. [/ QUOTE ] If you try to play this in MP, I'd add it's -EV if/when it gets raised behind you. |
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Re: Don\'t hate-evaluate
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[ QUOTE ] You made no mention of your position or who you are playing against. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Assume that one of the limpers is a loose but somewhat decent player who plays well postflop. Any other limpers are loose passive and bad. Also assume blinds are loose and that BB will call a raise approx. 75% of the time to see a flop. ... KTo in MP3 after 2 limpers. KTo in MP3 after 3 limpers. [/ QUOTE ] It was actually the mention of the one solid postflop player that changed my call to a fold. [/ QUOTE ] I interpreted the read differently. "A loose but somewhat decent player". I think i'm still ahead of his range, and playing better post-flop. Some information is missing here. Who limped first, what position did they limp from? Put the "loose but decent" player UTG limping in first, and I will fold KTo. If he's limping in MP behind a fish, then I call. |
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Re: Don\'t hate-evaluate
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Put the "loose but decent" player UTG limping in first, and I will fold KTo. If he's limping in MP behind a fish, then I call. [/ QUOTE ] I could agree with this, but I still probably don't do it unless I'm feeling good. |
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