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Old 11-23-2005, 09:29 AM
wheelz wheelz is offline
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Default if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

c/r, c/c, c/f, THAT'S a [censored] winner.

button is 22.1/9.2/1.78 after 850 full ring hands. i think he knows i'm a LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

I donīt really get your overall plan. I would bet/fold the turn. He could have an underpair, and you donīt want him to be able to win with those hands too. Were you calling most rivers, but figured that the J made JJ and TT beat you?
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

are you folding any non-k non-9 river?
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

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are you folding any non-k non-9 river?

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no
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

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He could have an underpair, and you donīt want him to be able to win with those hands too.

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i want him to try to though, so i checked. i wasn't folding most rivers UI.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

I guess he was thinking that button might bluff the turn but then check down a worse hand on the river?

Gotta hate that turn. I think I prefer bet/folding turn, and if he just calls then we must be toast anyhow.... Anything he can call a turn bet with must have as beat - fold river.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

so we're thinking fold a river blank too? wasn't sure about that. he might think i'm an idiot. really.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

No, it was a question more than a statement, I think u already answered it thanks!
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

i guess i'm not really sure what my river plan was, i just decided i was check/folding on this one [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: if you thought c/r, c/c, c/c was weak...

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so we're thinking fold a river blank too? wasn't sure about that. he might think i'm an idiot. really.

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I dunno. This reminds me of the c/c, c/c, c/f line where you are calling because you might have the bet hand, but your opponent would almost never bet the river with a hand that you beat. In this case, even if a blank falls, I have a hard time believing that our villain would bet with a worse hand 1 in 10. There are just too many hands that he could have that beat us. Out of the hands that donīt beat us, he would have had to play them in such an odd way, that it they just donīt seem that likely.

I think I could actually see folding the river even if the jack didnīt come (although the jack makes folding soooo much easier).
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