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Old 03-12-2005, 08:44 PM
walkdoc walkdoc is offline
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Default middle pair aggression

Too aggressive to bet middle pair w/ no response? I fold so many of these to a raise on the flop. Guidance requested.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, Villain calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Villain calls.

River: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:52 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: middle pair aggression

This is a very marginal complete against 1 limper. Your line is playable if you want to play a weak hand out of position aggressively, but against passive players I'm not sure it's +EV.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: middle pair aggression

I don't think there's any reason to get involved in the pot at all. It's tiny, you're out of position, and you have very little idea where you stand.

I think it's a check-fold on either the flop or the turn, unless you have some read on villain telling you otherwise.
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Old 03-12-2005, 09:15 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: middle pair aggression

This is spewing chips. 53o with a pair is not middle pair, it's a weak small pair with a weaker kicker. Plus you have no redraws. I'm sick when you call this river.
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Old 03-12-2005, 09:26 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: middle pair aggression

What do you beat that the Villian would bet?
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:56 PM
AngelicPenguin AngelicPenguin is offline
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Default Re: middle pair aggression

I don't think I'd even complete this vs only one limp. But having done that, this pot is way too small to bet the flop. Just check, hope your opponents do and you see a 5 or 3 on the turn and fold to any bet when it doesn't happen.
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