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Old 12-20-2005, 03:02 PM
Yuv Yuv is offline
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

Interesting idea, ROY award. I think Patrik Antonius had an amazing year (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...=r&n=23225), but without a doubt (unless you DQ him for a weekly tourny at the Billagio two years ago), the RoY award has to go to Mike Gracz.

2.5 million dollars in 12 months, including a WPT title, WSOP title and the Trump Classic.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

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Who had the better year? Before you answer:

Player 1 entered 46 events that cost $290,000 just in entry fees

Player 2 entered 1 event that cost $5,000

Now let's factor in travel and hotel and--

--you see where this would go.


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Yes, however.. there must be some kind of floor.. Surely one tournament win is not enough to qualify you for this award. The winner of the Main Event would just win every year.

There must be some kind of pre-determined circuit of respectable events to include for calcuation, and then the players should have to play in at least X tournaments...
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

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shaniac,

Re: the average full-time touring pro (ignore backing) these days, a few questions:

1) How many events do they go to? One major a month? More, less?

2) How many tourneys will they generally play per event?

3) What is the average yearly outlay in tourney buyins and travel expenses?

4) What percentage of the tourney pros play primarily tournies and don't really play cash games much?

I am referring specifically to the guys who aren't the superstar players, but the name players who seem to be at most tourneys. So, not the Negreanu/Ivey/Brunson types and not the wannabes like that Schleger guy, but the ones in the middle.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to spend $15-25k/month on buyins and expenses these days.

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I think this varies so much from player to player that there is no answer for these questions. Personally, I've been playing about 1 major event a month with 2 or 3 smaller events before. I also don't play cash games. I'm not sure if that's standard or not, but there are definitely people that play way more and way less than that.

I dont really think there is an "average" player for these.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

I posted this before, but I think it's amazing that in his first three big buy in live tourneys he finished Last / First / Last.

I spent a fair amount of time talking to him away from the tables at Atlantis last year and he is definitely a good guy.
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Old 12-24-2005, 07:55 AM
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I spent a fair amount of time talking to him away from the tables at Atlantis last year and he is definitely a good guy.

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I agree.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

I'm friends with Alex Balandin who came second at that PCA and he had only good things to say about him.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:13 AM
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He's been nominated for European Rookie of the Year, alongside:

Patrik Antonius (Finland)
Roland de Wolfe (England)
Peter Gunnarson (Sweden)
Noah Boeken (Holland)

(http://www.pokerineurope.com/pokerawards/index.php)
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but stars probably puts up the buyins for most of these tournaments
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

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not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but stars probably puts up the buyins for most of these tournaments

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John doesn't play for PS anymore. Not my decision, and I didn't think that their decision to let him go was a good one, but in any event, the post to which I reply is mistaken.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Rookie of the Year: John Gale

That didn't last too long, did it?

What's the current roster for Team Pokerstars, Greg?
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